Posted on Mar 16, 2018
How do you handle a disrespectful junior soldier that doesn't belong to you?
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I recently encountered a junior soldier who wore a patch I didn't recognize who was walking around outside in a VERY ate-up uniform. I showed him my ID card and identified myself and explained to him where he was wrong and asked him to correct the deficiencies. At which point, the soldier told me to go f*** myself and then tried to fight me. Now, the grunt in me got really excited and couldn't wait to wall-to-wall this young soldier, but the professional in me simply wouldn't allow it. So I asked what unit the soldier belonged to, to which he responded "To your f***ing mama, b****." Now RP Leaders, how would you suggest I go about rectifying this situation, or should I simply leave it be and let the Karma catch up with him?
**ADMIN NOTE** I still have not been able to find the patch and it's corresponding unit, so I have no way of finding this soldier's Command.
**ADMIN NOTE** I still have not been able to find the patch and it's corresponding unit, so I have no way of finding this soldier's Command.
Posted 8 y ago
Responses: 238
It’s probably a stolen valor asshole or someone visiting and knows you can’t do anything
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Was this on base or was it off? With someone off-base it could very well have been "Stolen Valor" and not a real soldier. It is too easy to get old uniforms and wear them not knowing it is illegal, especially with the response from the "man" you encountered. Most that I served with would not disrespect the uniform, a senior non-mcom, nor the branch he or she was serving. Keep in mind, anyone today is a volunteer, many of those in my era, me included, received a draft notice. Respect is taught at home.
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Im not sure what is the correct answer. I might contact the duty officer and have them deal with the solder in question. He has disrespected a senior NCO and could face according charges. Something else as well, if he has a unit patch that you don't recognize he could be a military faker and on the base illegally. In such a case he could actually be a terrorist. Again I think I would get the duty officer involved.
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It's simple. You're demeanor (polite, calm, angry or "in your face") will be a factor as will the attitude and demeanor of the person you are confronting. I start polite and concerned, if that does not work, I don't talk to the individual anymore. Nothing can be accomplished when the individual you are confronting is already disrespectful. You think your rank will scare them but 9 out of 10 times it won't. Then I decide if I'm going to waste time chasing down this clown's command (which I refer to as "being held hostage" by his/her behavior). Car license plates are helpful, taking a picture helps, and calling the base SPs/MPs can sometimes work. How far are you willing to go to correct the unacceptable behavior that this person's branch of service and drill Sergeants failed to instill? I came across this scenario three times in 22 years and two of them were officers when I was an E8. So, this scenario is not enlisted specific.
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Really depends on what he did? If is was minor: Bring him to attention, review his ID Card and give him a dressing down! If it was a Major encounter, ask him his unit and March him to it and address the Issue with his 1st Sgt. If it is criminal, take his ID Card , call the MPs. and give them his ID Card. You will be required to fill out a Statement,
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SFC (Join to see), It was a tri-tip shield patch. I recall there being an upraised sword, and a set of wings, and some sort of design toward the base (it was poorly lit at the gas station I encountered him at). But beyond that, I couldn't remember. I should have gotten a photo.
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Reference Special OPS Command.
504th Battle Surveillance BDE
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504th Battle Surveillance BDE
If you have time, go to usmilitarymedal dot com and check. I'm kind of interested in this. LOL
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