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I've really been bothered by our homeless brothers and sisters. I have been looking into starting a homeless veteran shelter/job assist. My question: Has anyone started one? If so could you help point the way? It pains me to see our fellow brothers and sisters living in the street, or worse. In my opinion if we don't take care of our own; no one else will. Would any of you be willing to help provide assistance (advice, finance, etc)?
Thank you
Essayons!
Thank you
Essayons!
Posted 11 y ago
Responses: 34
I volunteer and help out with the VALOR CLINIC (You can find them on Facebook). They are all about finding homeless veterans, transporting them to and from events that are set up to help them with food, clothing, medical check-ups, VA benefit enrollment, furniture, and more.
We actually go INTO the woods, into 'tent cities', and under bridges, to find the homeless veterans.
Valor Clinic is amazing and they get my FULL support and love.
We actually go INTO the woods, into 'tent cities', and under bridges, to find the homeless veterans.
Valor Clinic is amazing and they get my FULL support and love.
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LCpl Andrew Yawger
good job man i was a homeless vet once and the va saved me. keep up the good work man very proud of you man.
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Cpl Anthony Pearson
God bless you, brother. Glad to hear that you broke away from that situation.
Stay strong, Marine.
Stay strong, Marine.
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i live in new jersey and the VA here saved my life i had know where to go my parents didnt have no room at their house for me i was living on the streets i went to a dr visit at the va in lyons new jersey and they took me in and i got back on my feet in like 18 months they take care of you very well here they have plenty of free housing or very cheap housing for single vets. they helped me find a job and repair my credit and took care of all my legal issues i had and kept me out of jail and made me a better person.
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Cpl Anthony Pearson
Thank you for sharing this personal story of yours. I am proud of you, Marine, for seeking and getting help, and sharing your story. It gives people hope.
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With respect, I know they are out there, but here , I've never met one who seemed like a real vet, or who would accept help from the VA if they were. NONE I stop to chat with during the past 9 years--hundreds...could tell me who their first sergeant was, the maximum range of the weapon they claim, their MOS....simple things. They can't all be PTSD with no memory. Recently a fellow showed up at a VA Clinic in full new BDUs hiting up other vets in the clinic for cash "to get home"--police knew him well--he was never a veteran. TODAY there were two panhandlers in Raleigh-Durham--one with dirty clothing but a nice haircut and trimmed beard, the other with red bloodshot eyes reeking of alcohol. NEITHER could name the motto of their unit; or tell me the difference between a serial number and a SSN (they both claim to be Vietnam Vets) and they both sheepishly walked away when I said we were sending some Rolling Thunder fellows to help them--if they really needed help; --so I am 1000+% supporting any true homeless vet--a nation as wealthy as ours should not have a single one; the VA could operate housing on former military bases, etc. On the other hand some choose to be "homeless". They earned the right to make that choice even if we do not believe they can make it intelligently. I just don't think they should be begging if they make that choice. And for the MAJORITY here who seem to be fakers--toss them off the nearest bridge.
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SSG Jerrold English
Mos, serial number, last duty station...those are easy but I honestly can't remember a lot of that. I know where and when I went to basic but I can't tell you the numbers, same with AIT, I only remember where. I can only remember the barracks name of one of my duty stations lol and... I run a small business, a summer day care for kids and take care of 13 horses along with all the other mouths I feed around here! With Parkinsons lol Maybe your questions are to hard for us old timers LOL I'm also not a drinker or fan of drugs, not even what the VA wants me to take lol
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CW3 Chuck Huddleston
Most of the ones I have seen are just plain panhandlers who don't want work, just free money for doing nothing. I don't like to see them using a veteran status to get money, regardless if they truly are a vet or not. Veterans should be proud of their service, not drag it into the street.
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
I'm picking up what you are laying down 100%. While it might make you feel good about yourself handing that "homeless vet" a few bucks or getting him/her a sandwich it's a short term fix for someone that could be a con. Southern California is like the Mecca of Hobos. The weather is good year round. the people are generous and there are Many areas where transients can go without being rousted by Law Enforcement.
Hobos fall into two main categories. The first and smaller category are those who are extremely mentally ill. They don't have the ability to reason and therefore can't function enough to hold a job or maintain a place of residence. They are usually the filthiest ones and don't do a lot of interacting with the public. They need to be institutionalized and given the proper medication.
The second type is those who are addicts or alcoholics. Their entire existence centers around a little food, water, basic shelter and the next high. Nothing short of a full intervention, counseling and constant supervision will get them back as a functioning member of society.
Hobos fall into two main categories. The first and smaller category are those who are extremely mentally ill. They don't have the ability to reason and therefore can't function enough to hold a job or maintain a place of residence. They are usually the filthiest ones and don't do a lot of interacting with the public. They need to be institutionalized and given the proper medication.
The second type is those who are addicts or alcoholics. Their entire existence centers around a little food, water, basic shelter and the next high. Nothing short of a full intervention, counseling and constant supervision will get them back as a functioning member of society.
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AA Joseph Moody
1stSgt Eugene Harless - I live in central Pa, and my brother and I go out fairly often to sight see the panhandlers and one thing I have learned with doing that (although around here it is hard to not see them on a regular basis) is that they make some good money. I watched one for about 2 hours once while waiting for someone and in that time I saw the lady make about 2-300 dollars. A new face, the look of real need and a preggers looking belly in the middle of december tends to pull the heartstrings.
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CW3 Guy Snodgrass ,
I've managed to find two Veteran transition facilities in the US so far. Cave Junction, OR run by Manordev.com and Warriors that farm out of Kinnsboro, TX.
I'm in the process of setting up a nonprofit to start fundraising for a transition facility in Idaho to achieve pretty much the same thing. A shelter specifically for vets so that shuttle runs to the VA are more efficient. The NA/AA meetings are more likely to be attended because of the similar histories. On site clinic for most minor issues.
I got a few critics that think it's a little ambitious, but I've got the board put together and we'll be publishing the bylaws by the end of the month and filing the 1023 to be recognized as a 501(c)(3) by the IRS as soon as we can get the $850.
Otherwise, 1LT Nick Kidwell is right. Spend some time volunteering with DAV or a local shelter. It will give insight. I lucked out in that one of my board members is an administrator for a youth rehabilitation facility here in Idaho. She already has a handle on the logistics.
I've managed to find two Veteran transition facilities in the US so far. Cave Junction, OR run by Manordev.com and Warriors that farm out of Kinnsboro, TX.
I'm in the process of setting up a nonprofit to start fundraising for a transition facility in Idaho to achieve pretty much the same thing. A shelter specifically for vets so that shuttle runs to the VA are more efficient. The NA/AA meetings are more likely to be attended because of the similar histories. On site clinic for most minor issues.
I got a few critics that think it's a little ambitious, but I've got the board put together and we'll be publishing the bylaws by the end of the month and filing the 1023 to be recognized as a 501(c)(3) by the IRS as soon as we can get the $850.
Otherwise, 1LT Nick Kidwell is right. Spend some time volunteering with DAV or a local shelter. It will give insight. I lucked out in that one of my board members is an administrator for a youth rehabilitation facility here in Idaho. She already has a handle on the logistics.
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CW2 Joseph Evans
One of the resources I've found in my local area that I've found extremely useful is
http://www.selfrescuemanual.com/
Not sure if you can find something similar in your area.
http://www.selfrescuemanual.com/
Not sure if you can find something similar in your area.
Check out http://selfrescuemanual.com! Self Rescue Manual - A guide to all community resources and supports in Ada County.
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PV2 (Join to see)
CW2 Joseph Evans It sounds like what you are doing can be a model for future facilities. Please keep us up to date on what you are doing. There has been chatter on here about a RallyPoint Rescue Squad, this resource can perhaps in the future be added into the fold so to speak. Thank you brother for your work on this!
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CW3 Guy Snodgrass There is a fellow member of my VFW Post here in Holiday, FL. that is doing a wonderful job advocating and working towards several avenues to help our homeless brothers and sisters. I will be glad to put the two of you in contact so he can pass on any tidbits of info and guidance in your ear. He has been a driving force in our efforts for homeless veterans in our county here in Florida. Please accept my invitation and we can then chat via RP PM.
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I think all VFWs have service offices and mine even has a homeless out-reach officer. The VFW prides itself at being a Service organization (as opposed to Fraternal).
If your post does not have an out-reach, volunteer to be that person.
If your post has an out-reach person, volunteer to help that person.
There are multiple tasks that need to be done (food donation gathering, finding shelters, raising CASH and educating the general population).
It is more efficient to work an existing organization than starting a new one.
If your post does not have an out-reach, volunteer to be that person.
If your post has an out-reach person, volunteer to help that person.
There are multiple tasks that need to be done (food donation gathering, finding shelters, raising CASH and educating the general population).
It is more efficient to work an existing organization than starting a new one.
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The DMV area has a hugh homeless population. I wouldn't be surprised if most of our vets are mixed in with the other homeless individuals.
I can remember being homeless with a 4 year old son. It was pure determination that got me back on my feet.
I can remember being homeless with a 4 year old son. It was pure determination that got me back on my feet.
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I think that the American government needs to do so much more for our veterans. It appears that we are asked to do something for our country and when we are down it's like "Thank you, you're now on your own". I feel that we as veterans deserve so much more. Don't get me wrong I don't think that we should be given everything to us on a silver platter but give us a break and take care of us when we no longer can. I do realize that there are some vets that refuse help and that's their right. I also realize there are vets who, believe or not, prefer to be homeless again their choice. But the government needs to make every effort to touch base with them and remain in contact to ensure their wellbeing. My thoughts.
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A look into eyes. Effective communication. Not fooled. Sincerity. Genuine person to understand their choice, forced and lack or or choice of: Understanding to be where they are.
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How do you help? How do you know it's not a scam. To many homeless use the Vet card. Sa a guy the last 2 weeks had a sign Disabled Vet please help. One week he had a patch over left eye, next week it was over right eye. It is not that most of us don't want to help. But who wants to give to some Turd Claiming to be a vet just to get more money.
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CW3 Guy Snodgrass
True, there are those "wannabes" out there. The in-process procedure I intend to use for my shelter is to locate their DD-214. If someone comes to us and really wants to get their feet under them, we will help.
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SGT Patrick Reno
Guy I hope it works, The more that you can help the better. It's all the fakes that take advantage of everyone that hurts the one's that really need it.
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