Posted on Jul 29, 2014
How do you use the RallyPoint Answers categories?
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I was thinking that RP could create an alternative set of forums that lack rank and perhaps even picture. Maybe people would just be listed by first name & last initial with an avatar of a random piece of cheese?
These boards could then be the place for professional discourse and keep topics like "Which so called life resulted in more murder, Muhammad or Jesus?" or "50 different ways Atheists will burn in Hellfire plus a really great recipe for BBQ" as well as "Bieber Fever" away from any remote semblance of a professional community.
I understand vets love to congregate and chew the fat. I do it all the time on the Facebook OIF group, however we aren't identified by service, name, and grade. Furthermore, there are folks here that are no longer in the service agitating folks that still are and still subject to the UCMJ and that honestly is unacceptable behavior. The only solution I can see to maintaining RP as a social media platform while also a professional platform for employment and networking is to create a forum group for more pedestrian purposes. What do you think?
EDIT: Wow.. What a difference a word makes. In my re-edits of the second paragraph, the word us dropped off... right before Vets. I couldn't understand the animosity going on until I re-read the question.
These boards could then be the place for professional discourse and keep topics like "Which so called life resulted in more murder, Muhammad or Jesus?" or "50 different ways Atheists will burn in Hellfire plus a really great recipe for BBQ" as well as "Bieber Fever" away from any remote semblance of a professional community.
I understand vets love to congregate and chew the fat. I do it all the time on the Facebook OIF group, however we aren't identified by service, name, and grade. Furthermore, there are folks here that are no longer in the service agitating folks that still are and still subject to the UCMJ and that honestly is unacceptable behavior. The only solution I can see to maintaining RP as a social media platform while also a professional platform for employment and networking is to create a forum group for more pedestrian purposes. What do you think?
EDIT: Wow.. What a difference a word makes. In my re-edits of the second paragraph, the word us dropped off... right before Vets. I couldn't understand the animosity going on until I re-read the question.
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SSG McCulley -- You bring up a good point, which is one of the reasons we recently broke up Answers into four different categories. A lot of people enjoy the general interest discussion section - that is the more pedestrian purpose category that you are already posting in.
Some people want more strictly professional level military discussions (link below). Everybody can choose to read a specific type of discussion or all discussions.
https://www.rallypoint.com/categories/military-discussions/answers
Some people want more strictly professional level military discussions (link below). Everybody can choose to read a specific type of discussion or all discussions.
https://www.rallypoint.com/categories/military-discussions/answers
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I can't get on-board with this poll, simply because the category "General Interest" is an option on RP. If professional discourse is your only interest, then stay in that lane, SSG. There are numerous topics on here in which you can respond. Additionally, if you feel that you have a question in which you want an answer via general opinion, pose it. There are many service-members on RP that take questions seriously and will respond in a professional manner.
I think many of us take exception to the "vets" comment, however. Many of these vets have contributed years to our country...just like you and I. Dismissing their insights, just because they are no longer serving, I think, is a grave error-personally and professionally. All service-members will be veterans one day, and being short-sighted is not an attribute in anyone's "big picture".
If you want to network, then network. However, do keep in mind that "social networking" is not made possible by a collection of automatons. We are are still people. And until this site is completely dedicated to formal (and sometimes dry) discussions, and unless you can petition the site admins to exclude discussions that you feel are irrelevant to your professional progression, quit being patronizing, SSG.
I think many of us take exception to the "vets" comment, however. Many of these vets have contributed years to our country...just like you and I. Dismissing their insights, just because they are no longer serving, I think, is a grave error-personally and professionally. All service-members will be veterans one day, and being short-sighted is not an attribute in anyone's "big picture".
If you want to network, then network. However, do keep in mind that "social networking" is not made possible by a collection of automatons. We are are still people. And until this site is completely dedicated to formal (and sometimes dry) discussions, and unless you can petition the site admins to exclude discussions that you feel are irrelevant to your professional progression, quit being patronizing, SSG.
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SSG Kevin McCulley I take this for what it is-A site for some common minded networking, with a few posers intermixed and a few folks with no sense. When I encounter one that fits those criteria, I tend to simply ignore them. Some posers are harder to spot than others.
I would like (very tough job) to totally vet out everyone on the site, but do not think it is 100% possible. So, if someone puts something out there that is too far outside the norm, I go look at their profile. If it is weak, lacking, appears ridiculous, is unverified or any other number of reasons that are mine alone, I disregard what they say.
That said, I enjoy the Hell out of this community, because 95% of the folks on here that I have encountered have the same thought process as I do. The other 5% just have not come around to my way of thinking. (heh heh).
I would like (very tough job) to totally vet out everyone on the site, but do not think it is 100% possible. So, if someone puts something out there that is too far outside the norm, I go look at their profile. If it is weak, lacking, appears ridiculous, is unverified or any other number of reasons that are mine alone, I disregard what they say.
That said, I enjoy the Hell out of this community, because 95% of the folks on here that I have encountered have the same thought process as I do. The other 5% just have not come around to my way of thinking. (heh heh).
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SSG Kevin McCulley
I hear ya 1sgSgt. I was blown away by RP at first; a professional environment where an E1 could interact with an O7 in an honestly meaningful way.. theeeeeeen came the trolls. There are always trolls. *sigh* I am usually quite good at dealing with trolls but, because of the nature of RP, I am not Kevin McCulley.. I am Staff Sergeant Kevin McCulley, United States Army. When they are either ETS'ed or just don't care. This is not meant as a slight to our dear separated brethren as some have taken it, they just don't have the same level of consequence in a hyper charged 'death by a thousand cuts' atmosphere not seen in the DoD since Clinton had his/her claws in it post Gulf War I. When I point this out, some how I'm the asshole. Maybe I'm just hypersensative because I have one of the most Politically Correct focused MOS's in the military while simultaniously having one of the most politically incorrect internal monologue.. who knows.
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I feel like this is a slam on us Vets and I'm going to take offense. I feel safe in saying that the fellow vets I've come to know on here would never intentionally violate the UCMJ. Yeah we like to chew the fat and raise a little hell; we've earned it. But we are professional enough to respect those still wearing the uniform and to imply we don't have the candor to do otherwise is frankly insulting. I like talking to folks on Active Duty. It's been refreshing for me to meet other women who wear and who have worn the uniform because when I was in, there weren't as many women as there are now. I like hearing the stories and sharing in similar woes and hearing what's changed or different. I keep what I see and share here just here.
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SSG Kevin McCulley
Actually PV2.... it is a typo.. I rewrote that 2nd paragraph a few time and it was supposed to say: "I know us vets.."
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People inevitably keep bringing up the topic of what they don't want to see on RP or feel that RP isn't for certain types of discussions or in this case calling veterans out specifically:
"Furthermore, there are folks here that are no longer in the service agitating folks that still are and still subject to the UCMJ and that honestly is unacceptable behavior. "
I am very sorry SSG Kevin McCulley that you feel we are agitators, despite what LTC Yinon Weiss and the RP team have put in place to make this a friendly forum for all.
"Furthermore, there are folks here that are no longer in the service agitating folks that still are and still subject to the UCMJ and that honestly is unacceptable behavior. "
I am very sorry SSG Kevin McCulley that you feel we are agitators, despite what LTC Yinon Weiss and the RP team have put in place to make this a friendly forum for all.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
I can appreciate that LTC Yinon Weiss which is why I refuse to down vote anyone. All are entitled to their opinion here. I fully support all the efforts that you and the team have put into this site it truly is a Godsend. I simply expressed my opinion on that particular statement.
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LTC Yinon Weiss I echo MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca sentiments here. I have only down voted once. I respect the effort put into building this but seeing the Maj's remarks he also took it as I did. Perhaps it wasn't his intention, but I took his comments to mean Vets are agitators as well
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SSG Kevin McCulley
The first sentence in the paragraph was supposed to say, "I know us vets..." As for the rest of it, I've seen people trying to goading active service members and I don't think that is cool. The DoD has put out multiple messages saying that the UCMJ still applies in social media. If you say something politically sensitive the Army doesn't like, you will be crushed. Everything that every active service member says here represents their service because their rank and branch of service are listed in full glory. This isn't an attack on prior service by any measure of the word but on the behavior. It is not fair to take ANY discussion political where active service members are having a non-political discussion because of the chance of career destruction. All of you know what the current climate is. Forgive me if I'm just trying to look out for the best interest of my brothers and sisters in arms. I thought that was what NCOs did.
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CW2 Ernest Krutzsch
If you are easily goaded by someone, walk away. The rules of engagement are made clear by DoD, if it appears to you that it will be a problem, I would suggest that a reply not be generated. no one makes anyone reply to anything, it is a conscience decision. If any active duty soldier thinks that they are getting into a discussion that will cause problems, just let it go!
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