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The following was *supposedly* posted by a member of the United States Army. What do you think about his message?
Posted in these groups: 1ed105b8 Russia979a8ca4 Ukraine4de5ecdb ConflictUnited states army logo Army
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MSgt Don Leroux
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His choice, but must be willing to accept the consequences if he disobays orders.
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SPC Susan Glass
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I feel you can believe whatever you want, say what you want but when you are wearing the uniform of our country you need to remember the oath we took when we put it on. Democracy is the backbone of our country and needs to protected when threatened even when it is not within our borders. If we do not protect the bedrock foundation of our country why even wear the uniform.
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Cpl MIchael Lurvey
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A coward or a person looking for 5 minutes of fame. However they should not disgrace the uniform by making their comment in uniform.
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SSG Elbert Thomas
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I don't make many comments on here but, come on this was posted in 2015, can we get some newer posts? I don't bother even reading the older ones, at my age I don't like to waste my time.
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SFC Edna Madison
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If he will not support the military in the Ukraine verses Russia mission, he need to seek additional learning and information as to why the United States deem it important to our mission keeping strategy and how it protects our interest, as well as, the interest of our allies and the Ukrainians. Then if he still hold this opinion other actions should be taken.
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Sgt E Mark Pogue
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Then change your line of work. I’m sure many around you already know what kind of a person you are. They wouldn’t trust you with anything at all..
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Maj Ted Mc Neel Sr.
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One takes an oath to obey legal orders of superior officers in the military service. If you openly state you are not going into a combat environment, prepare to defend yourself at a Special or General Court Martial.
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CPL Brian Baumgartner
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I have a serious UCMJ question for y'all who are/were officers in the last twenty years.

His statement is ultimately hypothetical. IF this statement was a response to orders received, he should be subjected to court martial. But he is saying formally (in my opinion) he WILL refuse a future order, should it be given.

Setting aside political activism and the way the stunt was conducted on social media, if he was a Joe under your command and said in writing he would (future tense) defy any order (which does not yet exist) compelling him to deploy or otherwise engage in a war campaign (his duty as someone who enlisted purely of his own volition) he disapproved of, could he be prosecuted under UCMJ for something more specific and serious than simply showing disrespect to his chain of command? Let us assume in this case that conscientious objector status was not a viable defense.

To those who inevitably will start saying he has Constitutional protections: Those aren't absolute. The Constitution is mutilated when it comes to servicemembers; many rights are reduced or outright lost, and we sign up knowing that. For example, even privately criticizing or insulting POTUS could be considered sedition. This is why I ask.
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SGM Tim Kinsella
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Just another one from the SP4 mafia.
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CPT Stephen Feldman
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Edited >1 y ago
I wanted to be a Marine, I joined the Marines. I wanted to be in Special Forces, I got out of the Marines and joined the Army and made it into Special Forces. While I have always had political views and have supported both parties over the years, I have never tried to influence anyone toward my views because I have always felt that everyone has the right to make up their own mind.
It is my feeling if you want to support Russia, this statement is certainly supporting Russia, get your ass out of the US and go to Russia! I don't know if you are actually in the Army but I doubt it because you are wearing the rank of Spec-4 and have a 101st combat patch. The chances are that you are covering your face because you are not in the military because there shouldn't be any E-4s left that have 101st combat patches today.
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