Posted on Jun 2, 2023
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This is just a research question because I couldn’t find a solid answer in the regs.
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LTC George Morgan
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Short of a major crime, do not understand why anyone would want to that to another person. It makes no sense.
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
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Just exactly how would it hurt you to let it go?
A year later, can we get an update?
Note to self: the bot is easily triggered. Avoid words such as "h*rt," probably "p*in," etc.
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PO2 Stephen Cline
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All I know is that 6 months prior to my fathers retirement date he was given orders to Vietnam. He retired instead. He was enlisted. Officers are another ball of wax.
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CPO Kurt Baschab
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To be Honest, I never thought about it,
Why would you want to mess with someone who has done 18 plus years & has there Retirement Letter & date Approved, why not just let him or her do there job in peace, In other words, leave him or her alone, UNLESS , He or She has done something TRULY AWFUL, let them Retire IN PEACE, give him or her a nice send off.
Meanwhile you can let him or her set up the Required TAPS Class, for Himself & others who are Getting Discharged & Retiring, from Military Service.

Let the Retiring service member set up a date for himself & others who are Retiring or getting Discharged or Separated from service , with a DAV, VFW, AMERICAN Legion, or VA Representative, for himself and other Service Members, who are at the end of there enlistment, getting Discharged or Retiring from military service, let them take a day with the DAV, VFW, American Legion OR VA Representative get there VA Disability rating paper work started & submitted.

the command can use the senior service member Retirement as a opportunity, to show and teach the Junior members on why they might want to reenlist and stay for 20 plus years.
it a teaching Opportunity for the command, to show junior enlisted that the service takes care of those who serve 20 plus years.

the Command can have the person who is Retiring pass on his or her knowledge to Junior Enlisted personal, Pass on & Explain how important it is for each member to ensure his or her PDR & Medical records are up to date, & Accurate.

Explain why this is so important.
explain if your injuries, accidents, surgeries, medication along with other medical info is not properly
& Correctly entered in your medical records, as far as the VA is concern it never happen , same goes for your PDR , if you do not ensure the Correct dates, awards dates , and duty stations are entered in your PDR, as far as the VA is concern it never happen you cannot make any medical Claims from Asbestos, or other Hazardous Materials if you do not ensure everything is correct , for example if the service finds there was a Hazardous medical issue at a certain duty station, that could have effected your health the VA could say you were never there, because the data was not entered into your PDR or medical records.
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TSgt Carl Johnson
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I am surprised (although I probably shouldn't be) at the number of members who have read things into the original post. If I read his later comments correctly, he was trying to help someone that this was happening to. MAJ (Join to see), correct me if I am wrong.
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SFC Robert Walton
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Not really enough information to give a fair answer to this question. What is the reason for chapter after lock in of retirement. I delt with this a couple of times while i was in but it really depends on the circumstance's on what you would do.
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SFC William Fowler
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It is very easy to chapter out a soldier until the minute he retires. The regulations are set up to provide the protection to officers, not enlisted. The officers can ask for retirement in lieu of Admin discharge/court-martial and it is usually approved. When the indef enlistment was pass it was to treat the senior enlisted ranks like officers, in my experience that only happens with the SGMs, sometimes the FSG/MSG. Don't get me wrong the senior enlisted ranks can ask to be retired in lieu of admin discharge (I even believe that there is a checkbox for that) but very rarely is it approved, in regardless of how many conflicts, deployments, years of service rendered. Basically, enlisted can be tossed aside as the officers are the ones who come up the regulations. They truly take care of their own. It's not just a saying for them but the NCO corps says it but don't walk the walk per se. As seen by the respondents, who are mostly officers, there is a claim of totality of service (I would call lip service) but in reality, it is just the most recent moment. Look at what they did with the Vietnam vets - dishonorable or OTH which leaves it in the hands of the soldier. The review board for discharge has a 3% change rate, but majority of the retired officers will not change the discharge since that questions the integrity of the officer who approved the discharge.
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MSG Bob S
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To what end? If it’s to be vindictive, then you my friend, are part of the reason why recruitment and retention is at its lowest point. Leave the SM be, unless it is an egregious crime.
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SFC Jerald Bottcher
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Once a soldier has an approved retirement date (18 years or longer in service) it becomes very hard. Once a soldier has an approved retire date they do not have to pass the PT test, Weight control, and many other things.
Now if the soldier commits a UCMJ offence like popping hot on a urinalysis, or a DWI. or some other serious offence, then it can be done, but the chapter has to be approved by the Department of the Army
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1SG James Kelly
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An E6, chapter 10 for messing with one of his daughters friends. In Germany; what a mess for his family.
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SFC Clark Adams
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That's a discharge in lieu of Courts Martial, for the good of the service.
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