Posted on Feb 25, 2018
How important is wisdom in today's military leadership?
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Where do you rank "wisdom" in conjunction with other leadership attributes or characteristics? Can it be taught or does it develop over time? Is there such a thing as young wisdom versus old wisdom?
Share your thoughts about the importance of wisdom in today's military leadership? Is it present today in our leadership, are we losing it, and will it be there for in the future?
Should we place a higher emphasis on Wisdom during junior and senior leadership training?
Share your thoughts about the importance of wisdom in today's military leadership? Is it present today in our leadership, are we losing it, and will it be there for in the future?
Should we place a higher emphasis on Wisdom during junior and senior leadership training?
Edited 8 y ago
Posted 8 y ago
Responses: 67
wisdom (or lack thereof) has never been an operant criteria for leadership (as far as i know)
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Sgt Wayne Wood
COL Mikel J. Burroughs what percentage of those attributes are an acceptable minimum?
Which are mandatory & which are optional?
When does a checklist become a wishlist?
Enquiring minds want to know :-)
Which are mandatory & which are optional?
When does a checklist become a wishlist?
Enquiring minds want to know :-)
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
Sgt Wayne Wood - That is a long list and I guess it's up to the individual leader to go through each of those traits, qualities, and skills and decide what works best for their style of leadership. Pick any of them and I can tell you if Individuals I've known or worked with at all levels of leadership had those skills, qualities, or traits. It is a comprehensive list and there are some skills, traits and qualities to be learned by leaders at all levels. That is just my personal opinion Wayne and nothing more. Hope that answers the question.
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Sgt Wayne Wood
COL Mikel J. Burroughs not wanting to be confrontational... maybe should check my meds :-)
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
Sgt Wayne Wood - Your not at all - all good questions Wayne and I don't ever feel your confrontational brother! Have a great Sunday evening!
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As true wisdom can only come from both experience, successes, and failures, it is very uncommon with current leadership. The Army of today is so risk averse that only those officers who have had no failures, can really make rank. The absence of failures in military operations actually indicates an officer who lacks the will to stretch the envelope to accomplish a mission and generally lacks the willingness to throw out the book and think for him or herself. These are the prime prerequisites, of carrierism, timidity and the ability to scapegoat other officers for their own poor decision making. One example, what general worth his salt would have an affair with one of his junior officer's wife! Who would send his assets into an unknown situation, with inadequate intelligence, no emergency exfil plan or QRF prepped, and no air support already in the air or in a forward position? A four star General "H".
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
Great example of what I consider to be a low wisdom period on our military and our government, and even our current society CPT (Join to see) - that is my personal opinion William!
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Leadership without wisdom is a scary thought. Anyone can follow the regs, training manuals-but I think wisdom provides the temperance to do it smartly, humanly -letting you guide your people instead of hammering them. To my mind i it also curbs a lot of " Do as I say, not as I do".
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
Great feedback Bill - thank you! I'm excited about all the different perspectives on thsi question today. Have a great Sunday SGM Bill Frazer
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs We have leaders, but some do not have much wisdom. Wisdom is learned through trials, and storms. Some leaders never have felt that because they always had what they wanted.
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COL Burroughs, good question and food for thought. I once had my Company Commander, Who by the way was a Mustang Officer like myself asked me the same exact question you are asking us. First I would ask what is the difference between wisdom and the other leadership attributes or characteristics? Then I would give my best advice or answer. Which I believe I said to my C.O. “Wisdom is something you learned from making mistakes in the past so in the future you won’t do it again. Funny thing is we all know about history and our lessons learned whether in combat or peacetime.But do we have the Wisdom to learn from our past mistakes and not keep on repeating them over and over again. Again just this Marines opinion. Semper Fi COL B... Have a great day Sir!
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
Great wisdom coming from you my friend - thank you for your contribution CWO3 (Join to see)
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I rank wisdom up there as a needed attribute for effective leadership. I think wisdom is is taught through a combination of personal drive by reading and studying, formal military education, and by personal experiences. There is a saying that to be old and wise you must have had to to be young and stupid. There is a lot of truth to that in my book. I think to be an effective leader you would have had to have the life experiences and education so that you can effectively lead the ones you work for as a servant leader. I think there is more book wisdom and square filling for wisdom in our senior ranks today because we promote folks who have "completed appropriate PME" versus those who have continuously deployed and graduated from the school of hard knocks. To answer the last piece, I don't think we need to force emphasis on "Wisdom" at the junior ranks...that is where they learn form SNCO's and lifes uh ohs but encourage them to read and learn. Just my two cents worth. Lt Col Charlie Brown SMSgt Lawrence McCarter Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen COL Mikel J. Burroughs Maj Marty Hogan
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Lt Col Charlie Brown Saw way too much of this in my career, as I'm sure you did.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
Often the lessons learned best are learned from making mistakes, those are the ones You remember. Another great teacher is if Your fortunate enough to have people senior to You to help guide You. One man that stands out in my mid was a Supervisor I had at Hanscom AFB, MA in 1969-70 time era, a TSgt Samual Dickens, I learned more from Him about management, handling people and getting positive results than from any other person on this planet. His method was a great textbook example of how to do things and make even more effective as He motivated them to do extra because they wanted to. I always did well with the course work , written exams, courses etc. but throughout My work career His influence helped Me right through the rest of My life. I feel fortunate I had someone like him to guide Me and help develop as a leader. To this very day I think of Him as an example of the proper way to do things.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
SMSgt Lawrence McCarter - Lt Col Charlie Brown Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen Maj Marty Hogan COL Mikel J. Burroughs
Agreed. My best mentor that carried with me wy whole career was my first CMSgt. He was a Chief not just an E-9 and he taught me about discipline when I was a young punk Airman kid, accountability, professionalism, how to recover from mistakes and put them in my past but to not forget them, and praise for a job well done. If it had not been for him and my mistakes along the way, I would not have gained the wisdom that carried me through my career.
Agreed. My best mentor that carried with me wy whole career was my first CMSgt. He was a Chief not just an E-9 and he taught me about discipline when I was a young punk Airman kid, accountability, professionalism, how to recover from mistakes and put them in my past but to not forget them, and praise for a job well done. If it had not been for him and my mistakes along the way, I would not have gained the wisdom that carried me through my career.
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Hello Col. Burroughs and RP members. Where would I rank "wisdom" in the hierarchy of leadership? In my opinion, it would not be first but somewhere after "Respect". Yes, missions may be accomplished but not smoothly without it. As for "wisdom", I sort it into two categories - academic/educational; common sense. I know of engineers who are well qualified in their particular fields of engineering but lack common sense knowledge. To be a successful leader, the two areas of wisdom cannot be separated but must be in conjunction with each other. If they do not coexist within a "leader", it can lead to unpleasant attitudes by subordinates. I'm sure you all have heard the phrase more than once - "I respect the rank, not the person". Why? Is it because the leader has"widom" in only the academic category, not both? That is my belief in "wisdom" in the hierarchy of leadership.
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