Posted on Jun 25, 2015
How is your school district? With BRAC looming... The quality of your school district matters!
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As the military down-sizes, and Congress and DOD bat around the idea of another BRAC round (Base Realignment and Closure), it is likely we will have another BRAC.
There are many factors that go into these decisions, and ultimately, it is very political. But, community support, and schools are a huge consideration.
They also drive where many of us choose to retire.
So, How are your schools?
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/benefits/education/2015/06/25/poor-quality-of-schools-could-cost-military-communities/29233125/
There are many factors that go into these decisions, and ultimately, it is very political. But, community support, and schools are a huge consideration.
They also drive where many of us choose to retire.
So, How are your schools?
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/benefits/education/2015/06/25/poor-quality-of-schools-could-cost-military-communities/29233125/
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While this article makes for a good discussion, I still think the BRAC process will be highly political, and may have little to nothing to do with the schools in military communities. I bet it will come down to which politicians have the most influence, and which communities have the most political support. I bet that installations in the districts of key Congressional leaders will be spared, as will those with huge troop populations, and also those bases along state borders (they will have Representatives and Senators from two states fight for them).
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I was involved with some of the analytical stuff for BRAC-2 through 4. With the criteria locked in the politics had far less impact than people either side wanted it to be. That's why it was a full up/down vote for the whole list. I can't remember all the factors and the weighting but schools are just one of many important factors, hence didn't become a driver. So if the lessons learned from the previous BRAC rounds and the evaluation criteria and weighting winds up somewhat similar, schools by themselves won't be the determiner. That said, poor schools is a symptom of an overall problem reflected in a number of other factors which when totaled puts that base on the chopping block.
I remember some of the presentations to the Committee. Schools were scared SH....Less over the looming loss of impact funds. They typically floundered in their spiel as they were too little too late.
I remember some of the presentations to the Committee. Schools were scared SH....Less over the looming loss of impact funds. They typically floundered in their spiel as they were too little too late.
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COL Charles Williams
Understand CAPT Kevin B.. Having been the Garrison Commander here for 37 months (Fort Leonard Wood, MO), and on the tail end of BRAC 2005, (which had to be complete by 30 Sep 2011) and knowing FLW was on the BRAC list each type, this is sensitive subject here, and I was schooled many times on the process, and what it ultimately came down too... Politics. That said, I know at Manhattan KS, Fort Riley nearly closed forever, as the community, during a previous BRAC, said essentially they did not want or need the Fort... once the major units moved... and it went to an ARNG and Reserve post... they lobbied hard to get units back there, and did... BRAC 2005. I understand there are many factors, and that this is ultimately all about politics not metrics and what makes sense. But, these are things they have been considered this time around and last time.
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CAPT Kevin B.
COL Charles Williams There're two types of politics. Politics that gains traction and politics that don't . Under BRAC rules the political animals assumed it was business as usual and there was a lot of politics that turned out to be just noise. My take was politics had more opportunity to tinker with bases on the bubble. That's where I heard the most emotional whining. It was a no brainer to dump Treasure Island and Mare Island as it was to keep a Bangor, Bremerton, and Kings Bay. My work was Navy only but I guess the politics played out similar on your side. Everett was bubble for a bit but the finance of a new base kept it above the cut line. Good thing as more mission has shifted up to the NW since.
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Coventry, RI has an OK school system compared with the rest of the state. It was much better when we moved here 11 years ago, but Core Curriculum has taken it's toll along with special needs integration and the quality of teachers. I'm sure this is no different than many other places.
School are a community resource and too many people don't understand that. Too many parents think you hand your kids over for 6 hours a day and that absolves them from disciplining them, doing homework with them and helping them meet the required standards - a Core Curriculum issue. Many w/o kids vote every budget and tax increase down putting more and more financial responsibility on parents. Our schools don't provide text books and we are forced to provide everything from paper towels and Kleenex to markers, crayons and chalk and "pay to play" for sports and other extra curricular activities. Our districted pushes integration of special needs children onto school programs for which they are not suited because they won't pay to put children in the programs they belong in out of district. There are many issues with severe profound children not being in adequate facilities or having adequate supervision because it all comes down to money. Teachers that aren't cutting it are allowed to stay because the union backs them despite numerous parent complaints. 2 teachers in one school had 40 combined complaints from parents who wanted their children removed from the classrooms because of the poor quality of the teaching but there was no place for these children to go and the teachers still have jobs despite the principal's objection. Seniority is more important than experience. A teacher who taught 5th grade for 10 years and who got displaced is able to bump a 1st grade teacher with less seniority then fail in the position because they can't relate to the younger children and again, the union lets them keep their job over the principal's objection. Money is being stripped from public schools and given to charter schools with "by lottery" enrollment which is a slap in the face.
School are a community resource and too many people don't understand that. Too many parents think you hand your kids over for 6 hours a day and that absolves them from disciplining them, doing homework with them and helping them meet the required standards - a Core Curriculum issue. Many w/o kids vote every budget and tax increase down putting more and more financial responsibility on parents. Our schools don't provide text books and we are forced to provide everything from paper towels and Kleenex to markers, crayons and chalk and "pay to play" for sports and other extra curricular activities. Our districted pushes integration of special needs children onto school programs for which they are not suited because they won't pay to put children in the programs they belong in out of district. There are many issues with severe profound children not being in adequate facilities or having adequate supervision because it all comes down to money. Teachers that aren't cutting it are allowed to stay because the union backs them despite numerous parent complaints. 2 teachers in one school had 40 combined complaints from parents who wanted their children removed from the classrooms because of the poor quality of the teaching but there was no place for these children to go and the teachers still have jobs despite the principal's objection. Seniority is more important than experience. A teacher who taught 5th grade for 10 years and who got displaced is able to bump a 1st grade teacher with less seniority then fail in the position because they can't relate to the younger children and again, the union lets them keep their job over the principal's objection. Money is being stripped from public schools and given to charter schools with "by lottery" enrollment which is a slap in the face.
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