Posted on Mar 13, 2015
How many of you remember this little tidbit in regards to Kerry?
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It's just kind of, well, disheartening. How does this compare to Iran?
What are your thoughts?
It's just kind of, well, disheartening. How does this compare to Iran?
What are your thoughts?
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Edited 11 y ago
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He fought, therefore I think he has just as much right to voice his opinion as other, even though I disagree with him. I think this coming out during his run for president affected his campaign.
No one wants to be seen as anti-American.
Additionally, I think some of his actions as Secretary of State are questionable. I know, most have questionable actions, however, I think it is a huge mistake to negotiate with Iran about their nuclear ambitions when it could potentially destabilize the entire region, as if weren't unstable enough.
No one wants to be seen as anti-American.
Additionally, I think some of his actions as Secretary of State are questionable. I know, most have questionable actions, however, I think it is a huge mistake to negotiate with Iran about their nuclear ambitions when it could potentially destabilize the entire region, as if weren't unstable enough.
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SSG Leonard Johnson
Sort of true corporal..... When he came back or during this time over there he embraced communist sympathizers and he is a commie and was a commie. These were the sworn enemies of my time, and today. Remember Benedict Arnold committed treason to :-)..... not saying Kerry committed treason, everyone else be the judge of that
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LCpl Steve Wininger
I agree wit you SSG Leonard Johnson I did not agree with his actions or who he was involved with. I actually think they were dishonorable, however, he has the right to protest and say as he chooses, just like the rest did.
What really concerns me, is the short memory of Americans and the fact they are not concerned that he now holds the top diplomat spot in America. Hmmm, could this be the reason the United States is willing to negotiate with Iran, and even allow them to pursue nuclear research for the purpose of energy (Had to fight from heaving my supper when I typed that). Most including many of the Arab countries are against Iran having any nuclear capabilities.
I wonder if it was Kerry's idea to give jobs to the terrorists?
What really concerns me, is the short memory of Americans and the fact they are not concerned that he now holds the top diplomat spot in America. Hmmm, could this be the reason the United States is willing to negotiate with Iran, and even allow them to pursue nuclear research for the purpose of energy (Had to fight from heaving my supper when I typed that). Most including many of the Arab countries are against Iran having any nuclear capabilities.
I wonder if it was Kerry's idea to give jobs to the terrorists?
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PO1 Charles Wright
Kerry came back from Vietnam and testified before Congress (keep in mind his father was a Senator) that he actually witnessed our soldiers shoot a surrendering, enemy soldier and other war crimes. Yet he did nothing to stop the alleged crimes he witnessed, nor did he report them to the proper military authorities at the time. That made him guilty of several UCMJ Codes, including Conspiracy, yet he was never charged. (Most likely because his powerful Senator father)
Then a short while back his son gets the boot from the Navy Reserve for popping positive for Cocaine, gets to resign his commission and take a high paying job as a lawyer, and he was never charged. Now he has the audacity to say 47 Republican Senators committed an atrocious act the likes of which have never before been seen. But he wasn't counting one anyone remembering his little trip to Nicaragua, even though it had been brought up when he tried to run for President. He is a terrible Secretary of State, and would be an even worse President.
Then a short while back his son gets the boot from the Navy Reserve for popping positive for Cocaine, gets to resign his commission and take a high paying job as a lawyer, and he was never charged. Now he has the audacity to say 47 Republican Senators committed an atrocious act the likes of which have never before been seen. But he wasn't counting one anyone remembering his little trip to Nicaragua, even though it had been brought up when he tried to run for President. He is a terrible Secretary of State, and would be an even worse President.
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Interestingly enough, this was a topic of debate on a particular Golden Microphone radio show this morning. People are all sorts of upset that 47 Republicans wrote a letter to Iran informing them that any agreement/treaty that does not go through the Senate is not active, but there have been issues like this going on for years!
I personally don't know how to take it. Sen Cotton is a vet. I think it is sad that it took Senators taking this action in order to point out to the public that they (Congress) are tired of being 'gone around' in order to accomplish foreign policy or domestic policy.
I don't know. The libertarian in me just wishes they'd grow the f*** up, you know?
I personally don't know how to take it. Sen Cotton is a vet. I think it is sad that it took Senators taking this action in order to point out to the public that they (Congress) are tired of being 'gone around' in order to accomplish foreign policy or domestic policy.
I don't know. The libertarian in me just wishes they'd grow the f*** up, you know?
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SGT (Join to see)
Oh I do understand that!!! It's time to put the American peoples interest first. We have to wait two more years to voice that out loud tho. Just ugh
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TSgt (Join to see)
It is fun to watch the most likely candidates melt down though. I don't honestly know if the Dems truly want Hillary. I know for sure the Repubs don't want Jeb.
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I have to admit, most people may not remember his service in the civilian sector like I do in the 80s, 90s and year of early parts of World War III of OEF/OIF.
Before everyone starts yelling at me, look at his record in civilian politics. He has been wrong on just about every issue. Him and the former secretary defense tried to slash veterans programs, defense programs. He has supported known communist sympathizers like Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, current liberal members of Congress, and some Republicans who support communistic values.
You know when Kerry and Clinton's mouth is moving, you know they're lying. I thought the former Bush administration lied, but it seems like every week these people come up with a new one.
And people I'm sorry, before you bash me I am retired I've earned the right to say what I want. I'm not a communist or socialist for that matter.... so I've earned that right
Before everyone starts yelling at me, look at his record in civilian politics. He has been wrong on just about every issue. Him and the former secretary defense tried to slash veterans programs, defense programs. He has supported known communist sympathizers like Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, current liberal members of Congress, and some Republicans who support communistic values.
You know when Kerry and Clinton's mouth is moving, you know they're lying. I thought the former Bush administration lied, but it seems like every week these people come up with a new one.
And people I'm sorry, before you bash me I am retired I've earned the right to say what I want. I'm not a communist or socialist for that matter.... so I've earned that right
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TSgt Tim (lj) Littlejohn
I could not say it better; obama can and you don't even see his mouth move!!!
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I don't care. He volunteered to serve when it was unpopular. He developed opinions based upon those experiences and was vociferous regarding those opinions. Many of us may disagree with them, but C'est l'America.
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LTC (Join to see)
He still volunteered. I volunteered in 2007 to join the USAR, and a training unit at that. Does that mean that I'm above your contempt for not becoming an 11B or 18X? We in the military seem to want it both ways: we complain that we are the less than 1% but then cannibalize our own when we disagree with them politically.
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CPT Michael Krogh, please don't include in your banter about " We in the military". The only way I wanted it was to follow orders and keep my mouth shut, and make it home alive. Any medals I may have, were earned, not given to me. 11Bravo isn't any better than any other MOS, don't get your panties in a wad,Sir.
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LTC (Join to see)
SGT (Join to see)? Panties in a wad? I was making a point. I take nothing anyone says on here personally.
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SGT (Join to see)
I hope not. Everything I say on here is my first thought which is dangerous. I just don't like it being said "WE". I didn't and don't want anyone to speak for me. Now, Sir, go iron your panties. LOL (-;
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Whether you like the man or not, and whether you agree with his politics or not, let's try to remember that he is a fellow veteran. He served honorably --- I've seen no evidence to the contrary. Personally, I think it was shameful the way his decorations were called into question when he ran for president. They were all properly awarded by seniors in his chain of command. What gave anybody (especially fellow veterans) the right to drag him thru the mud over medals that were properly awarded? More to the point: how would any of us feel if we found ourselves in the same situation?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_Vets_and_POWs_for_Truth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry_military_service_controversy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_Fonda_2004_election_photo_controversy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_Vets_and_POWs_for_Truth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry_military_service_controversy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_Fonda_2004_election_photo_controversy
Swift Vets and POWs for Truth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Swift Vets and POWs for Truth, formerly known as the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT), was a political group (527 group) of United States Swift boat veterans and former prisoners of war of the Vietnam War, formed during the 2004 presidential election campaign for the purpose of opposing John Kerry's candidacy for the presidency. The campaign inspired the widely used political pejorative "swiftboating", to describe an unfair or untrue...
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Just goes to show he is a rogue who doesn't respect authority, except his authority. Any officer can put themselves in for medals, like three PH's, Silver and Bronze Star medals. Do you really think a PVT. Or SP-4 clerk is going to argue with an officer about the medals he put himself in for? It was not uncommon in Vietnam for a BN Commander to go in the field to put himself in for a medal. Ask any grunt or artillery soldier.
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Kerry left the service in 1970. Also, through that meeting, we uncovered the Iran-Contra scandal. The most important difference though is that the "mission" was fact-finding in nature and did not seek to undermine the President and Congress had a direct role in the mission's findings as they would have to vote on the resulting initiatives.
With the current Iran situation, we have some problems.
1 - it's a UN 7 country negotiation to create a non-binding plan of action which does not require Senate approval or input (Before it's said, this isn't unusual).
2 - The letter not only actively attempts to undermine the President in his lawfully conducted Constitutional duties, but it also casts doubt on our willingness to honor the thousands of other such agreements in place should internal political expedience make them low hanging fruit for to win an election.
3 - Cotton is a junior senator with only 2 months in office and has received an ENORMOUS amount of money in campaign contributions from Pro-Israel interest groups. It wasn't his strong grasp of the intricacies of foreign policy or years of experience dealing with high security information that Senators have access to, so that leaves him being bought and paid for.
4 - It is utterly partisan in nature. It has no Democrat or independent buy-in and even many Republicans think it's idiotic. Think what you will of Washington's hyper-partisan atmosphere, when it's really counted, usually a few people can be found to break ranks. No such thing has happened here.
With the current Iran situation, we have some problems.
1 - it's a UN 7 country negotiation to create a non-binding plan of action which does not require Senate approval or input (Before it's said, this isn't unusual).
2 - The letter not only actively attempts to undermine the President in his lawfully conducted Constitutional duties, but it also casts doubt on our willingness to honor the thousands of other such agreements in place should internal political expedience make them low hanging fruit for to win an election.
3 - Cotton is a junior senator with only 2 months in office and has received an ENORMOUS amount of money in campaign contributions from Pro-Israel interest groups. It wasn't his strong grasp of the intricacies of foreign policy or years of experience dealing with high security information that Senators have access to, so that leaves him being bought and paid for.
4 - It is utterly partisan in nature. It has no Democrat or independent buy-in and even many Republicans think it's idiotic. Think what you will of Washington's hyper-partisan atmosphere, when it's really counted, usually a few people can be found to break ranks. No such thing has happened here.
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SGT (Join to see)
#1 Do you really feel that the President has acted within the guidelines of the Constitution?? Why is it that others feel like he hasn't??
#2 And I think you may have answered this all ready, but do you think that America would be a safe place if Iran were given nuclear capability and do NOT think they would use it for another reason all together.
We have to remember that we armed people like Sadaam Hussein with WMD's and he ended up using it against his own people. (The Kurds)
#2 And I think you may have answered this all ready, but do you think that America would be a safe place if Iran were given nuclear capability and do NOT think they would use it for another reason all together.
We have to remember that we armed people like Sadaam Hussein with WMD's and he ended up using it against his own people. (The Kurds)
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SGT Jeremiah B.
1 - I do. I would attribute how others feel largely to partisanship and ignorance. Has he done some things that could have been handled differently? Maybe, but given the current climate of hyper-partisanship, division and a fractured, infighting GOP, I'm not sure ANY president could be effective if they needed to wait on those yahoos. In this particular case, he is under no obligation to consult with the Senate and it is not the Senate's place to inject itself in a UN security counsel negotiation.
To make matters worse, the Senate doesn't even know what the agreement IS aside from "Not what Netanyahu wants." Frankly, I think they're serving the wrong master.
2 - The question isn't whether the world would be safe with a nuclear Iran but whether or not any deal struck would actually lead to a nuclear weapon.
The problem with Saddam is we sold him ACTUAL WMD. We didn't allow him the ability to develop a limited capacity for nuclear energy with an agreement to sell all waste and extra fissile material to Russia (which is a POSSIBLE solution here).
To make matters worse, the Senate doesn't even know what the agreement IS aside from "Not what Netanyahu wants." Frankly, I think they're serving the wrong master.
2 - The question isn't whether the world would be safe with a nuclear Iran but whether or not any deal struck would actually lead to a nuclear weapon.
The problem with Saddam is we sold him ACTUAL WMD. We didn't allow him the ability to develop a limited capacity for nuclear energy with an agreement to sell all waste and extra fissile material to Russia (which is a POSSIBLE solution here).
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SGT Jeremiah B.
Let me rephrase - Kerry met with both sides while trying to determine if the Senate needed to approve a $14m arms package for the Contras.
In the end, however, the Senate had a direct stake in whatever was determined regarding Nicaragua. It also didn't interfere with any delicate negotiations, unless you consider illegally selling weapons to Iran to fund questionable rebel militias in South America "delicate negotiations."
Was Kerry right? I don't know. I'll give Cotton the same leeway in that young, impetuous junior Senators maybe do things they probably shouldn't have. At least Kerry had the excuse of it being a Senate issue and didn't issue a letter intended to demean the office of the POTUS and insult a hostile nation during tense negotiations.
In the end, however, the Senate had a direct stake in whatever was determined regarding Nicaragua. It also didn't interfere with any delicate negotiations, unless you consider illegally selling weapons to Iran to fund questionable rebel militias in South America "delicate negotiations."
Was Kerry right? I don't know. I'll give Cotton the same leeway in that young, impetuous junior Senators maybe do things they probably shouldn't have. At least Kerry had the excuse of it being a Senate issue and didn't issue a letter intended to demean the office of the POTUS and insult a hostile nation during tense negotiations.
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
Although, I understand that Kerry did speak at anti-war events. It's always uncomfortable at best when civilian leadership does not support you.
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Well, isn't that just blah! I hate when that happens. Thank you for pointing it out for me. So I put in another. :-)
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I knew that photo was fake. I use SNOPES all the time and when someone sent it me, I looked it up. I always check with SNOPES before I make an ass out of myself., like now. (-;
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