Posted on Jun 4, 2015
LTC Stephen F.
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I try to give back to the people of this nation as I am able. I used to donate blood regularly; but because I was stationed in Germany in the early 1980's when some beef in military mess halls came from cows with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) [Mad Cow] I can no longer donate blood because we have become infected with Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Variant (vCJD); "Mad Cow Disease." I learned recently that people with HIV can now donate blood - per conversation with Red Cross POC, efforts were funded to come up with a way that HIV positive people can donate blood. That saddened me and made me mad. Bovine spongiform can only be tested through autopsy right now. Many of those of us who served in Europe during the latter part of the cold war have not been able to donate blood. I hope that NIH will make in a priority and obtain funding to develop ways to test for bovine spongiform in people through a blood test.
[Note: I updated the question from "veterans" to "Veterans and service members" on June 6, 2015 - 71st anniversary of D Day - Operation Overlord]

[update May 18, 2018] As of 2017, worldwide 230 people, roughly 180 in the UK have been infected with vCJD and 4 people in the USA have been infected.

Mad Cow and VCJD are nervous system diseases which are based on diseased prions [not the car]. Diseased prions binds to proteins and converts them to prions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxojz6grwcU

Thanks to 1SG (Join to see) for alerting me that "there is progress in the development of methods to detect misfolded proteins in the bloodstream" I did research and found the following at an NIH site.
As this article informs us there has been progress in control groups testing of "developed blood tests to detect prion." The article states that there are plans to "validate their methods using larger samples sizes."
Hopefully this process will be successful to detect whether or not we have been infected by Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Variant (vCJD); "Mad Cow Disease."


"Prion diseases are a group of rare, fatal brain diseases that affect animals and humans. They are caused by normally harmless proteins that become abnormal and form clumps in the brain. One form, called variant CJD (vCJD), is associated with eating meat from cattle infected with bovine spongiform encephalopathy, commonly known as “mad cow” disease.

People may have vCJD for years before symptoms—such as depression, hallucinations, moving difficulties, and dementia—appear. These “silent” carriers have small amounts of prions in their bloodstreams and can transmit the disease to others via blood transfusions. The only current method to diagnose vCJD is to perform a biopsy or a postmortem analysis of brain tissue. Thus, a noninvasive test to detect prions in blood is a medical priority.

Two research groups recently developed blood tests to detect prions. The results appeared in a pair of papers published on December 21, 2016, in Science Translational Medicine. One of the groups, led by Dr. Claudio Soto of the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, was funded in part by NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS), and National Center for Advancing Translational Sciences (NCATS).

Prions are scarce in the bloodstream and difficult to measure. Both teams developed methods to amplify the prions in blood samples using a technique called protein misfolding cyclic amplification (PMCA). PMCA relies on the characteristic nature of prions to cause certain healthy proteins to clump abnormally and convert into prions.

Soto’s group first combined healthy proteins with known concentrations of infectious vCJD prions. They intermittently agitated these mixtures with sound waves. The agitation helped break the prions into smaller chunks. This increased the number of prions that could then convert healthy proteins into prions. Using this method, the scientists were able to detect more than a billion-fold dilution of prions using an anti-prion antibody.

The scientists next tested whether the technique could be used to detect prions in blood samples from 14 people with vCJD and 153 controls. The controls included healthy people as well as people with different neurological or neurodegenerative disorders, including sporadic CJD, the most common form of CJD. The assay flagged all the vCJD samples correctly.

In the second paper, a French research group described a similar approach testing a blinded panel of blood samples. That team identified 18 vCJD patients in a group of 256 samples.

“Our findings, which need to be confirmed in further studies, suggest that our method of detection could be useful for the noninvasive diagnosis of this disease in pre-symptomatic individuals,” Soto says. Early diagnosis would allow potential therapies to be tested before substantial brain damage occurred. This technique would also allow blood contaminated with prions to be detected and removed from the blood supply.

Both teams are now working to validate their methods using larger samples sizes.
―by Anita Ramanathan
nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/new-method-accurately-detects-prions-blood



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CPL Dean Thomas
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All are but mainly the Army Engineers
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CPL Dean Thomas did you mean to post this response to this discussion.
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SPC Sheila Lewis
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I understood if You had been stationed overseas....
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CPL Dean Thomas
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LTC Stephen F. - yes sorry
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LTC Stephen F.
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CPL Dean Thomas - no problem, hope you were able to post it to where you meant to :-)
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CPL Dean Thomas
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I'm not because I was deployed to desert shield/storm and received the anthrax shot then also I went to somalia
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LTC Michael A. Staves
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Stationed in Afghanistan
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I hope there is a time limit after being stationed in Afghanistan and being free from symptoms that you will be able to donate blood if you want to LTC Michael A. Staves.
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Thank you. I used to give everytime I had the opportunity.
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SGT Indirect Fire Infantryman (Mortarman)
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As an immigrant from eu and service man of U.S. army I am having the same problem, they are saying that the standards are not equal to us and I have to say bull to that
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SGT Tresa Silva-Rooks
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Meds and blood thinners
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SPC George Long
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I received both Hep b and c from the guns used by the Army to give mass injections at Basic Training, This was in 1968 at FT Bragg. I suspect from what I saw on 60 mins a few years ago that everyone who got inoculated with the guns got contaminated with. something. Neither are active in me but the markers exist, . Eventually it was discovered and the guns were discontinued in the 70.
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LTC Stephen F.
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I am glad the contamination of those guns was discovered and sorry to learn that you contracted Hep b and c. I didn't appear to catch anything from the guns used in 1974. Can you donate blood now SPC George Long
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SPC George Long
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I cannot donate blood and must disclose the markers prior to any surgery. I can bank it for myself for surgery but that's all.
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LTC Stephen F.
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SPC George Long - Thanks for confirming. I am glad that at least you can bank it for your own surgery and hope that you won't ever have to use it :-)
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SPC George Long I was inoculated with guns in 1980. I hope that doesn't apply to me.
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SGT Rick Ash
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I am not a viable provider as a pancreatic cancer survivor and a 6 month, 24/7 chemotherapy recipient. I dislike that but I still have my "Gallon Club" card.
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LTC Stephen F.
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Thank you my fried SGT Rick Ash for responding so long ago.
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MSgt Jamie Lyons
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We got Heb B vaccine for some reason/deployment and now because I got Heb B anti-bodies I have been told I cannot donate. I have B pos blood and they used to love when I came in.
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LTC Stephen F.
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I am sorry to learn that MSgt Jamie Lyons. I have seen a lot of medication commercials for treatment of Hep C and perhaps B. I hope that there will be some relatively safe treatment which will free you from Hep B ant-bodies and any other Hep B residue.
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LCpl Mark Lefler
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my blood sugar hovers between 300 and 400.
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Sorry to learn that LCpl Mark Lefler
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I am not able diabetes....
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LTC Bink Romanick, I am sorry to learn that you are dealing with diabetes.
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