How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?

Officers and senior NCO--E-8 and 9 don't have the option of losing their temper and shouting in public---except to be hears. Tell the Marine to remove his cover in public and let it go at that. If he acts like a smart ass, he's probably a problem for the people he works for. Getting into a shouting match with this idiot is a bad idea, and don't get into his face, unless you're ready to defend yourself on the spot, with your fists. Find out who the little bastard works for and make sure he deals with him.

I don't believe it... A SgtMaj manhandling a Marine today? No need, just, "Following me Devil Dogs" de-escalate the situation immediately and follow up with discipline if needed. But 3 Marines totally out of control over a Cover in the MCX today? I don't buy that!!!

I'd like to point out to everyone here that they are missing a crucial point here. In this case, "Young Marine" refers to a kid who is a member of the "Young Marines" youth program. They are allowed to wear items of Marine Corps uniforms (with various identifying marks like shoulder patches). Although they are not subject to Marine Corps Orders, or the UCMJ, they ARE expected to treat the uniform (and Marines) with the respect they are due in exchange for the privilege of wearing the uniform.
Personally, the program always kind of rubbed me the wrong way. For one thing, the title of Marine is something that Marines take very seriously, and these kids get to call themselves that, and make fools of themselves in our uniforms just for signing up. Now, I've got no problem with a youth program designed to use the Corps' core values and traditions to instill those values in children to help them be better citizens, but they could adjust the name and uniform a bit.
As for the incident, The officer was not outside his lane to tell the kid to uncover indoors, since A: that's one of the rules of the MCX, B: that's one of the rules of the Young Marines, C: That's the rules that come with the privilege (not right) of wearing that uniform item, and D: The kid is supposed to show respect for Marines anyway.
The kid was out of line for talking back. He has no right to that uniform, and the privilege can be revoked at any time. Besides the fact that that is one of the whole points of the program is to teach kids respect for authority, and how to take a correction, correct themselves, and move on.
The mom had every right to defend her kid if she felt he was being mistreated, but in this case, I think that doesn't mean that she should have reacted that way. I personally think that she should have corrected her kid, and had him apologize for his behavior. Again, the kid WAS breaking the rules. You wanna live on base and shop at the PX, you have to follow the dress code. If you want to be a member of the organization, you need to follow it's rules. If you want to wear the uniform, you need to follow the rules that come with it, or you simply don't get to.
As for the Sergeant Major, I can't really fault him for breaking up a fight. He was not just breaking up an argument, though, he was correcting the officer. Any Marine can correct any other Marine if they are in the wrong in a social situation, and the Marine in the wrong (officer or not) is expected to take the correction, correct themselves, and move on (sound familiar?). I've been out in town, and seen a 2nd Lieutenant walk into a Walmart in his utilities (against Marine Corps uniform regulations), and sent him back to his car to go change into civvies. I was a Corporal! Now, I was a bit more polite about it than the SgtMaj, but the Marine I was correcting wasn't being belligerent (just stupid). I think that the SgtMaj was as tactful as he needed to be to make the appropriate correction.
Where he goes wrong, though, is actually grabbing the KID, and physically hauling him out of the building. That is not only inappropriate and unnecessary, but I'm fairly sure that constitutes assault as well, which is not only a crime, but also a violation of the UCMJ. Possible career killer, but then again, for all we know, the SgtMaj was retiring that afternoon.

My son now a retired Marine. Was in boot camp first week in . Went to berricks to take a nap after some kind of training( with out permission or being dismissed) needless to say Sgt found out . He never did that shit again. Moral of sharing young boys going in as boys coming out as a marine. RESPECT and do what your told to do. No cover inside as even I know that as a mother or three military men.

Marines should know that there are all ranks around and do as told them ask who. Bad form. Semper Fi.

I am a retired person here's my thoughts. The Corps have standards that have been around for years, there no way in H..l that this new breed and these new standards should be allowed to change what has made the Corps what is. We are separated and noticed from other services by our great standards and values. Just think how many other senior enlisted people or same rank that may have known him walked by this person and said nothing. I know if I was still in I would of said something to him myself. My hats off to the Sgt Major. I would be glad to under a person who still has try Corps value these day.

interesting...

Wow

Is he under arms?

"Focus on the question."? And the question is, will this Marine get extra duty? Why even tell the story? Let me summarize the story; "A young Marine ignores deeply rooted principle of every Marine's universe and is advised by a senior Marine to correct himself, but then inexplicably ignores another deeply rooted principle of every Marine's universe by insolently disobeying that senior Marine. Has the young Marine risked harsh consequences?"

Hell yah! I would say he's wasted his career.

But I have serious doubts about the details of the story.

Once In Disneyland in Civilian Clothes, A Drunk Marine stopped Me and My Wife and proclaimed,"Your Hot you should be a Real man A US Marine !" At this time I pulled out my I.D. Sgt USMC, and told the Young Marine "Your Liberty Is secured, Report back to your unit, I want a call from your Officer In Charge, Do You Understand ! .....Yes Sir! .........The next day I got a call. This is Lt so in so I sorry for my Marine action at Disneyland. What Do You Suggest? My replay was "Crew His Ass let him go! " With the following words "If You Ever Do This Again Dishonor the Corps I going to have Your Ass !

Simply put, the junior officer is wrong because he lost control of the situation. When challenged, as to who the "f" he was, he should have said "I'm the Marine Officer telling you to square yourself away." No shouting. No yelling. No arguing. At that point the Marine has only one proper response, which is "Aye aye sir (and remove his cover.)

Of course, a simpler way to handle this would have been for the officer to introduce himself first. "Good morning (afternoon) Marine. I'm second Lt. Jones...." and then give the direction. In this way there would have been no dispute as to the authority to remove the cover.

These seems like a pretty cut and dry situation. The fact that the Marine didn't automatically remove his cover (he was obviously in the wrong) is astounding, not to mention "who the **** are you?" is a very dangerous question in an MCX. He got what was coming to him and the SgtMaj did exactly what he should have done. I hope that Marine got smoked real good when SgtMaj got him outside.

I think the Jr officer could have had a lot more military bearing and asked to speak with the private outside,but as for the mother telling a Sgt Major not to touch her son, well......she needs to understand that her son is a Marine first!!....all else is secondary!!...Semper Fi

The Marine Way.

I dont understand why folks think this is strange? Has the Corps changed since i got out in 2003?

I dont understand why folks think this is strange? Has the Corps changed since i got out in 2003?

If you can't lead yourself you have zero business leading others

Everybody throttle down on the sport drinks.

The SgtMaj did a fine job....