Posted on Aug 7, 2017
How should someone handle a disrespectful PFC (as a SPC)?
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When I was in my first company, I had problems with a PFC in a different squad who thought it was perfectly fine to openly disrespect me even though I outranked him. I couldn't correct him, as his squad leader wasn't very fond of me and gladly let it happen. Now I've switched companies, but the same PFC continues to approach me with disrespect and threatens to get his leadership if I defend myself
Posted 8 y ago
Responses: 64
You do have a right to write and file a complaint against the pfc for his disrespect
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This man has a issue with you. It is probly on a personal level. You would have had to done somthing that offended him and he does not see your rank. Come on man, a Specialist does not need privates to like them, we have our own thing going. Find out some of his chain of command, and get a favor. Or simply write him up. It needs to be somthing that needs to pertain to a military disrespect and not a personal issue. You can also go through Battalion. Be careful not to whine, and watch out becoming a snitch and having somone else handle it.
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Lol.. Your a SPC... If you aren't his team leader, tell him to fuck off and grow some thicker skin. I am guessing you aren't in combat arms, because that shit wouldn't have ever been allowed in an infantry plt.
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SPC Banks, take this with a grain of salt and understand this comes from someone that had some similar issues and saw many like it. The best thing you can do is to ignore this walking nutsack. The issue is that you are both close in rank and he may become a SPC soon. By the time you get anything rolling you will lose steam. Additionally the NCO's in your unit will not think highly of a Junior enlisted getting all worked up over something that will pale with what you will have to deal with soon. Leadership looks troops who can deal with issues without making them worse for leadership positions, problem solving skills are a must. The very best thing you can do is show true leadership by doing everything possible to get your stripes, schooling, leadership positions etc. Then sit back and watch nutsack fall behind, or better yet run his mouth around some NCO's that will eat him for breakfast. This type of behavior doesn't just happen in junior ranks it happens up the NCO ladder and even with officers. A wise old MSG from TN once said to a young SP/$ back in the day "Choose your battles wisely, because not all battles are wise to choose" He then spit a large glob of spit and chew and said get moving peckahead as he laughed and walked off.
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Being a Specialist in a TL slot is always a pain. As was said earlier, get your CoC involved and explain the situation. A lateral "promotion" to CPL could be an option to give you the title of Non-commissioned Officer. Just know that you are not in a unique position. The Privates are gonna give you Hell because you're juinior enlisted in an NCO slot. The NCO's will give you Hell for the same reason. As a CPL, you will technically be an NCO. But, with that rank, you are in a position that we used to call "Oscar Tango Foxtrot (out there flappin')." Find a quality NCO that will offer you support and mentorship as you drive on.
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It may seem silly but...journal all the instances of disrespect that occur, include dates and times and locations. Be detailed (i.e. in uniform or out, who else was there etc.) once you get a few entries start making corrections or giving orders and journal those and his reaction. If his leadership then gets involved get yours involved and produce the journal with the entries. Be sure that this is all the journal is used for because if things start getting official (NJP-Art. 15) it could become evidence.
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When you were in the same company, you should have wrote counseling statements on said soldier, until you have enough to write an article 15 on said soldier.
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Back a long time ago, I was a pfc. We were on rail head detail for NTC. For some reason we were down for hours. Nothing happening. A dozen of us were laying out on the ramp. A spc woke me up 3 times because I was snoring and he was having a conversation. After the third time I told to wake everyone up or leave me alone. My question is, did you do something patently stupid? Because respect ia earned. A spc is a higher rank than a PFC but it's still like an older brother amongst siblings.
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SGT (Join to see)
No I have never done anything disrespectful nor stupid to this PFC. I was never one to throw my rank as a SPC around, in truth I was kind of a passive in my old company, I believe that could have been a leading factor in all of this.
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SGT (Join to see)
I in fact helped this PFC many times when he was new, same to all new guys. But that kindness was shown as weakness because I was nice to them.
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You have 3 options:
1. Violence but if caught you may end up a PFC.
2. Earn his respect or figure out why he feels the need to disrespect you.
3. Ignore it.
Once or if you get out in a leadership role you'll have many cases where you deal with situations like this. It's always going to be best for both sides to attempt to solve it before you go down the paperwork trail.
1. Violence but if caught you may end up a PFC.
2. Earn his respect or figure out why he feels the need to disrespect you.
3. Ignore it.
Once or if you get out in a leadership role you'll have many cases where you deal with situations like this. It's always going to be best for both sides to attempt to solve it before you go down the paperwork trail.
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I hear what everyone is saying...this is a tough situation, even in the civilian world. The biggest thing YOU must do, WRITE it all down; date, time, situation, soldiers involved, use your cell phone to take pictures if you have to, etc, because it will be YOUR word against HIS! Sure, let him call in his leadership and you can show them your proof of what kind of dirt-bag he is. He was probably a bully as a kid, and still one as an adult.
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Cpl John Barker
It was a different time. Actually, that wasn't really supposed to fly in 2007 either but all of our squad leaders/ drill instructors from the Island had cut their teeth on the streets of fallujah while we were still in HS so they just cared about teaching us the right way and keeping us alive, even if it did that that with some
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As a last resort, you may want to use your commander's or 1SG's open door policy, if they have one, of course letting your own leadership know. I would not necessarily suggest mentioning the specifics, but a blanket conversation about respect, and the lack of it in your unit. This is something that may surface within a command climate survey, and should be addressed if it is a problem.
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