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I have seen and heard so many different ways to sling a M4/M16. If having the issued slings I was told have the rifle pointing up. Wait no have it pointing down. Then if having the three point sling I saw rifle slung on back. I saw rifle hanging in the front.
I never saw it in regulations. What do you think it should be?
I never saw it in regulations. What do you think it should be?
Posted >1 y ago
Responses: 42
As a medic, if on patrol , I kept mine in the front muzzle up . made it easier to drop my aid bag and swing my weapon to my back, muzzle down. This also prevented me from setting my weapon on the ground while treating a patient. On a regular day to day it was on my back muzzle down pointed to the left. Because I am left eye dominate, I shoot left handed. If I needed to swing it to the front, it would already be positioned properly. I use to catch a ton of grief for having my weapon slung with the muzzle to the left.
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1SG (Join to see)
I hear ya SSG Michael Scholl I have just seen some ugly stuff with rifles bouncing around because the way they were slung and absolutely no hands on them holding them. Weapon posture means a lot to me, and I hate it when I see a unit doing a ruck march and weapons just flopping around everywhere. Personally in a combat environment (actually on patrol not walking around the FOB) My vote goes to a "wolf tail" (as we called them) and the rifle then clips to your gear on the firing shoulder.
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SPC Richard White
It depends on what you are doing.Normally a weapon should never face down.when on a road march at a low and ready position,never know when you may encounter an ambush.Crossing a river up high and above the head.Never lay in the dirt.
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During my time in, I have seen a wide variety (in multiple branches) of differences in carry methods. It seemed to change during different decades as prior combat veterans came and went. The best idea for all commands to follow is: to take the lessons learned (by our brothers and sisters in arms) from previous combat experiences. Look into the type of situations that were involved and utilize these as training scenarios for new and non-combat experienced personnel. Certain situations dictate different carry methods, but unless you train in the different types of scenarios – it won’t really matter how you carry it – you won’t be properly prepared to react at a blink of an eye to situations that might be the difference between life and death for you and/or your comrades in arms. Now that the combat environment is downsizing and garrison duty is becoming the name of the game again – commands should be utilizing all the hard won knowledge from recent combat situations and be funneling that knowledge into all aspects of training. If our new personnel are ‘training to operate like they would in a combat environment’ then we would have a better start right off the bat in any next conflict or situation that they are called upon to handle at any given moment. What you put into your training is what you will get out of it in a combat situation - also, no matter how you carry – if you are complacent in your situational awareness be it here stateside or across the pond – it won’t matter. Complacency kills in any locale and it doesn’t differentiate by gender or rank.
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Not talking as a Admin FOBit. As a soldier looking to get his troops home, and a SWAT officer in the civilian world. Barrel ALWAYS goes down. You can live without a toe, your chances of surviving a sucking head wound are much less.
It should always be slung so that it falls to the front. A soldiers office space is from the thigh to chest. Everything you need to survive a firefight needs to be in that space.
It should always be slung so that it falls to the front. A soldiers office space is from the thigh to chest. Everything you need to survive a firefight needs to be in that space.
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This is the way I like to carry my weapon all the time:
1. Muzzle down
2. In front, because better control
3. Finally better SA of the weapon
1. Muzzle down
2. In front, because better control
3. Finally better SA of the weapon
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SGT William Howell
Spoken like a guy that never had to run to cover, call in an airstrike, throw a couple grenades, patch your buddy up, suppress fire, bound forward, and snap some necks.
If you need an extra hand getting your buddies ice cream at the POGass DEFAC then the wolf clip sounds like just what you need.
If you need an extra hand getting your buddies ice cream at the POGass DEFAC then the wolf clip sounds like just what you need.
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I guess you got it all figured out SGT. By the way, it was an Army SFC who taught a group of us that philosophy years ago. Everybody has their own preferences dude.
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SGT William Howell
That philosophy has went out the window. Troops now are highly mobile and have many roles on a battlefield which require 2 hands. This SGT has 2 combat deployments with the ARMY and 3 years in Afghanistan as a contractor.
A wolf clip flops around without a hand on it. Crazy thought... you might need that other had to do something other than hold your weapon yet you still need to maintain control. 2 point. Heck even when you are getting ice cream way in the back lines you might even have to tie your shoe.
A wolf clip flops around without a hand on it. Crazy thought... you might need that other had to do something other than hold your weapon yet you still need to maintain control. 2 point. Heck even when you are getting ice cream way in the back lines you might even have to tie your shoe.
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SGT William Howell
LT My apologies for being so ruff. Bad advice that has the potential to get people hurt get me fired up. Running around with a rifle flopping around is not a good way to carry a rifle. People that have not patrolled in combat should not be giving advice on the best way to carry a rifle.
My thoughts were back to rolling into BIAP and seeing soldiers kicking back, not even sure there was a war going on out the front gate. These are the guys that should not be giving advice to PFC Snuffy about what works in the world of bullets flying and people dying.
I was very harsh and could have said it just a little better and for that I apologize.
My thoughts were back to rolling into BIAP and seeing soldiers kicking back, not even sure there was a war going on out the front gate. These are the guys that should not be giving advice to PFC Snuffy about what works in the world of bullets flying and people dying.
I was very harsh and could have said it just a little better and for that I apologize.
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Note: None of that was allowed when I was in. It was always present, order, port, right/left shoulder, or slung arms (on back, pointing up). Nothing else. Sling had a half-twist in it.
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However I could do the least amount of damage to myself or the soldier behind me.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
Same philosophy LTC (Join to see), but it rarely if ever makes it from the fridge to the table
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I was always under the impression that the rifle should be slung in front, muzzle pointed down so that if something were to happen, it would be easy to grab the weapon and bring it into action, and if the rifle were to go off, the round would go into the ground in front of you as opposed to somewhere far off in the distance. Granted, it's situation dependent, but that's just always been my default. I don't know the official rules on it.
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SGT William Howell
I was told that the hierarchy goes God, Jesus, CSM. I tried not to waiver from that. When I did..I was usually in the front leaning rest till I at least seen Jesus.
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When I have my gear on I prefer to use a wolf hook. That way there's no sling to get caught up on anything.
Otherwise, I like the 1 point sling.
Otherwise, I like the 1 point sling.
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SSG Robert Pierce
Please forgive me for not knowing but; can you tell me what exactly a wolf hook is?
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I always slung my down across my back unless I had my alice pack on. if I had my alice pack on then I slung it across my front still pointing down. but you may not be able to that depending on the load you are carrying and may have to sling it to the side but should be pointing down.
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