Posted on Dec 2, 2015
"How should you react to an "active shooter" scenario if you are within 50' of the shooter?
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*Insert about 30-40 comments from people who describe the Rambo/ John Mclaine'esque actions they will take that have no bearing on reality whatsoever*
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Your comment almost made me regret mine...well said. Still, I'd like to think I'd do more than die with a dumb look on my face or worse still, abandon people even my limited training may have helped if I ran away.
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You can guess all you want, but who really knows until it happens. Hopefully with the training most of us have we won't be cowering down somewhere pissing our pants.
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That depends entirely on what means, if any, I have to identify that the "shooter" is in fact a threat (and not a cop performing their duties)...confirm that I myself or someone else is in imminent threat (civilian "ROE" for self-defense cases)...and lastly, to actually engage the shooter without harm to bystanders.
It's a bad day, no matter how it goes down.
It's a bad day, no matter how it goes down.
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Police officers have firearms everywhere they go also they still get shot! You are going to do what's best for you at that time. Just remember you never know how many are actual players in the game.
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SFC Eric Williams
I hear you. Look around, assess the situation, identify the possible number of combatants. Thanks!
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As a carrier of a firearm everywhere I go I would return fire. No question or doubt about it.
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Think about what you are asking... First you have the safety of yourself and those that are with you. Then them around you at the same time do you know the situation you will be in? How can you train for something you do not know? For myself I prey you are never in a situation that you have to deal with a shooter, but if you are I hope you and the others around you are not harmed. Life is to short for some wac job to mess up for you. If your like me I find ways of doing that on my own. Live life to the fullest and deal with things when they come.
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SFC Eric Williams
Preparation is 80% of success. I, like you pray to never face a situation like the scenario I presented. I seriously doubt there is one sure fired fail proof solution.
I'm going to share a story of preparation with you.
While being trained to become a basic training drill Sergeant I learned the Hiemlic menuvor hoping to never have to use it. During one of our cycles low and behold it's needed, joes chocking and turning blue. Only because the army prepared me he was able to walk out of that dining facility that night. The question is designed to invoke situational awareness. Look at Paris and San Bernadino. I'm glad some training was impamented in that facility in San B., because many of the people locked doors and took cover and waited for law enforcement to arrive...... Preparation is 80% of success.
I'm going to share a story of preparation with you.
While being trained to become a basic training drill Sergeant I learned the Hiemlic menuvor hoping to never have to use it. During one of our cycles low and behold it's needed, joes chocking and turning blue. Only because the army prepared me he was able to walk out of that dining facility that night. The question is designed to invoke situational awareness. Look at Paris and San Bernadino. I'm glad some training was impamented in that facility in San B., because many of the people locked doors and took cover and waited for law enforcement to arrive...... Preparation is 80% of success.
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SSG Melvin Nulph
SFC Williams, you are so right there. The brain is something I'll never understand. I suffer from short and long term memory loss, but not long ago (2-3 months) I was in a nasty situation. Head on SUV and a motorcycle, needless to say the guy on the motorcycle wasn't well. Do not know how, but the guy with me let me know the smile went from my face, and this person he never thought I'd be took over and I started barking orders to other's so he was taken care of until the EMT's was on sight. He told me I even helped them until he was being taken to the life flight. Difference was all the years of being a Combat Lifesaver even as an E-6 was there when it was needed. Turned out he's a soldier out of FT. Wood and so happy to say he gets to spend the holidays with his wife and family. That's coming from someone that can't remember the day of the week or time of day 90% of the time and I where a watch?
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Figure direction of fire, get all people that I can to safety in the opposite direction. Then see what I can do to possibly stop the shooter before more people get hurt. All without trying to wet my pants.
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SFC Eric Williams
Honest, clear thinking....this is simply a moc training exercise. The more we train the better prepared we can hopefully be. We all know reality is much different than training. But train anyway.
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Run, Hide or Fight... According to most SOP's... I would Add PRAY during all of it...
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