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Need some help here, I have never requested nor have ever been affiliated with any regiment. What I am looking for is an example of how to request one so that I can get my paperwork started and turned in for approval.
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Here's a little history on this - there used to be a time when there were multiple battalions/units within each regiment and they were dispersed across the world. The plan was for you to affiliate with a regiment (not a unit) and then you would PCS within the regiment to the different battalions/units. That has since been phased out and is no longer used. But, that was the original purpose of being regimentally affiliated.<div><br></div><div>Additionally, under the old classifications of Combat Arms, Combat Support and Combat Service Support, CS and CSS MOS's did not have different regiments to affiliate with, they were "automatically" affiliated with their branch specific "regiment".</div><div><br></div><div>Finally, Combat Arms MOS's were the ones that had the options to "choose" which regiment (not battalion/unit) that you wanted to affiliate. Some chose their first unit or if they had served with multiple regiments while some chose the "coolest" RDI.</div><div><br></div><div>Basically, as a CSM, I look at this as a way to carry on traditions and a way to teach regimental and branch history to our young folks. I encourage them all to look up the different regiments they are eligible for and find out which ones have the richest history or something that may be significant to them and then affiliate with that regiment.</div>
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CSM Mike Maynard
SGTs Pefley & Robertson - nothing has changed as far as requirements for affiliation.
But, the new 670-1 will address regimental affiliation and distinctive unit insignia a little more in depth and will explain the requirements to wear the RDI and DUI and which you are authorized.
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SPC Michael Hunt
When I enlisted they identified me with an 11X which meant infantry-variable which was used for Special Forces and Special Ops for combat arms units... after AIT they changed it to mos 11B. If you look at my time in service, I have changed a lot. No regrets, I enjoyed most of my time in service. Do they still use the X variable identifier?
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SGT Richard H.
SPC Michael Hunt the reason for the X-ray identifier is to give you a branch-specific open contract. For example, you choose Infantry, you enlist as an 11X. The Army then has the option to send you to AIT for 11B, 11C, 11M, or whichever specific Infantry type has the greatest need. Special Forces has their own X-ray (18X).
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So you all might like to hear this, today (very out of the blue) I get an email from my company commander, basically forwarding the same information from my S-1, which stated S-1 will not process my request for affiliation due to not having a certificate attached to the 4187.
So with the help of you all in pointing me in the right direction with the regulation, I, using the highlighter feature of Adobe Reader, highlighted every paragraph in the regulation, attached said regulation and the original 4187 and sent it via email (with the help of a very trusted fellow NCO) back to my company commander and informed him that basically (but not in these words) S-1 is wrong.
Before my day ended, my 1SG calls me directly and explains that S-1 is going to try to send my paperwork back up the chain for approval/disapproval. Interesting how this will pan out, but will for sure let you all know the outcome.
Thanks to every single one of you for your help and contribution, without you I wouldn't be pursuing this at all.
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MAJ (Join to see)
SSG McIntosh,
Good luck and I hate it when I messed up S1 gives people bad information. Back in the day you could go to a PSB and the accurate info but now you just depend on an S1 shop.
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Example of 4187 in the reg.
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SSG Dan McIntosh
Thanks sir, will try to put mine together using the example from the reg. Will have to figure some things out though. With the age of the reg. and with the changes the Army has been through since then, allot of aviation units are not in the reg. But no worries, one way of learning is just doing it until you get it right.
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Sorry you had to learn the hard way. Always was an odd award. If you were actually in a regiment, but don't have the orders, you're wrong. However, if you've never even served in a unit, you can affiliate with that unit if you submit the paperwork! (e.g., I could affiliate with the 160th SOAR, even though I never served there. Crazy!)
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Thanks to both of you for your answers...I'll just tack on my $.02 on regimental affiliation.
Many, perhaps most, Soldiers will be regimentally affiliated coming out of AIT/OBC. They seem to be automatically affiliated with the training regiment (AG, Chem, etc). It just winds up on their ORB when they graduate their school.
A lot of specialties do not automatically do so, unfortunately. (Aviation is one of them). You have no idea how many times I've explained to S-1s (who are almost automatically affiliated with their AG regiment) what regimental affiliation is, why you need to be affiliated, etc.
Kudos for actually doing the paperwork...I've seen many people just slap on the badge and be done with it. Don't know why the Army makes this so difficult, considering you can affiliate with ANY regiment. (Sigh)
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SSG Dan McIntosh
Thanks for the great response sir, as you have stated, I did wear one back before reclassing, it was something my entire battalion wore, however, after reclassing, I kept wearing it and I was questioned about being affiliated with that regiment and since I did not have any orders, a memo or 4187 I had to take it off. I have never minded doing the paperwork, great teaching tool that I can use for future soldiers, just hard to do so when no examples can be found.
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LTC (Join to see)
Gross. How any 42 doesn't know the information you just laid out is beyond me. Not only do all AG Soldiers go over these issues in their AIT/BOLC, but it is also basic knowledge, skill-level 10 stuff.
I'm sorry that you have not been better served. The answers provided here are spot on. You can choose whichever regiment you want (if you are 11/13/19/a few others) but it's better if you have some reason to choose it (You were in it previously or your grand father served in it in Vietnam or something like that) because others might see it and ask questions, and you don't want to be the guy who says, "I just thought it was cool."
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Have you checked Section X of your ERB (the portion entitled REGT AFIL) to ensure it is blank? It's not something you generally have to go out of your way to do, it just happens. You generally only have to get your hands dirty of you want to CHANGE your affiliation.
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SSG Dan McIntosh
Section X of my ERB is blank. As far as my memory serves me, the portion of the ERB ( as you stated REGT AFIL ) has never had anything in it. If its supposed to be "automatic", well that didn't happen.
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WO1 (Join to see)
I have the same issue. I never was assigned to the signal regiment, officially, but I do have my certificate to prove I am affiliated.
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SSG Dan McIntosh
SPC Cody, as long as you have some type of legal documentation proving you are authorized to wear a regimental affiliation, then just make an appointment with your S-1 and get it added to your ERB and also have them process it for addition to your iPERMS.
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To my understanding because Im in the same boat is that it involves a 4187 from your unit and S-1. I myself am regimentally affiliated with both the Transportation and Signal Corps but I choose to keep Transportation because that was my first field. As long as you hold that MOS in that field or have some sort of 2nd or 3rd connection ie, grandfather was Signal then by all rights you can apply. Someone correct me if Im wrong.
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Normally us Combat Arms types, have to request to be regimentally affiliated, done with the DA-4187. I had the good fortune of having it done for me by the first unit I was assigned to when I completed 19E OSUT way back in '88; as I liked the unit and what we did while I was there, I never wanted to change it. Due to the changes inthe Army after DS/DS, the actual meaning and purpose of RA went away, and it became more of an individual pride thing; ie. belonging to 11th ACR, 3rd ACR, etc...looks like the answers already provided should help you out with the process of submitting for your RA.
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SSG Dan McIntosh
SFC Swartz, kinda sad that between your service begin time to my service begin time, that this doesn't always happen. This should be a process that all units still do, but unfortunately its not. It will be something I keep in mind when I PCS to my next unit to help out every soldier in my unit who doesn't have one, assuming they even want one in the first place.
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SSG Nelson,
First off, sorry for the late response, with college and work, haven't had much time to check emails.
Second, thanks. I can send to you what I sent to my leadership on Monday if you are still willing to square me away with this.
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Your S1 should have an example of the 4187 to get your affiliation. It is an easy process to accomplish.
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SSG Dan McIntosh
True 1SG, S1 should have an example. I have brought it up before but with no luck. Guess when mine is completed, I will give them a copy of mine, minus personal information, so they have one for future use.
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CPT Krogh, maybe this might explain the ineptitude of my S-1. He is a civilian and not military. I dont know if he was prior military or not, and in my honest opinion, if you go through any training that gives you the skills to do what an S-1 does, then being a civilian is not an excuse to "not knowing".
Interesting to know though, that this is skill lvl 10 stuff for a 42A.
My current MOS series is 15, which does fall under CA. The reason I am choosing the affiliation I requested for, was the unit I was in while I served in Germany for 6 1/2 years. I deployed twice within the same unit, have many great friends from that unit both soldiers and NCO's. So as I understand the regulation, I should have the right to ask to be affiliated with that unit.
As I stated before, will update you all once this process is completed. Thanks again sir.
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Send me a email I’ll send you a copy of mine with some redactions of my personal in for
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Is it possible to get RA once retired? I don't believe it was done by leadership at my first unit but we wore it while I was there.
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Anyone else find out that you suddenly got a new regimental association? I happen to check my ORB since I need to get a new DA photo and learned that my current unit (Infantry BCT) suddenly (i.e. since I last checked sometime last year) was listed in my Regimental Association (instead of the good old Signal Corps). Now to figure out if it worth my effort to deal with the S1 to reset it or just embrace it for the photo.
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