How will the Army transition with transgender in open showers?

As far as I'm concerned this bullshit has to stop.

Maybe I'm just too old fashioned, but I have a feeling most men would not be at all upset at "trans men" showering with them, meaning biological women who have the delusion that since they "feel" like a man that magically makes them into a man. In fact many might find that a very entertaining and stimulating experience. On the other hand, I doubt that too many women soldiers would be happy to openly shower with biological men who claim to be women. I will add that I think discussions like this would be improved if we stopped using the terms "trans" and "transitioned" and the like. Without totally re-defining what the words "man" and "women" mean, it is literally impossible to change one's gender, i.e., "transgender" so no transition can actually ever occur.

Males I feel will more accept females in the shower, however, I don't feel the women will be so respective.

It's overdue for the Supreme Court to rule that there two biological sexes, male or female. Each should confine to their natual born sex, irrespective of what they relate as.

My hope is that it will not be to ignore the rights of female service members until one files a Tailhook-esque lawsuit to bring attention to the problem.

I remember back in 1966 when a homosexual was assigned to the G2 Section of 3rd Inf Div. HHC. He always showered in the wee hours when the showers were not in use. I do remember thinking about how that issue could be resolved and the only solution I could come up with was: No person should have to shower with someone who might find them of sexual interest." Which, basically, meant that everyone would need to be able to take "solo: showers. BTW, the homosexual did an outstanding job, easing the load on others in the Section with never any type of "offensive" behavior. He was very quick thinking...I remember one time when we were on maneuvers in a local German town and the fire dept. was called for some reason. The the call was resolved the firemen refused to leave with out getting our lead Officers serial number. He was no present and no one know the number. As the Germans were getting more angry, he, homosexual, said he had found the number and gave it to the Germans and they departed. When asked where he found the number, he replied: "It the Kissinger APO with a 1 in front."


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Not many ppl identify as what ever U say! I see no problem unless U are conflicted with gender in U're own mind. When I was in Afghanistan the first time there were separate times and U might not get any water. It was even worse when Infantry boys were back on camp. Might have gotten better after I left the first time in 2003. Ppl that want combat will maybe get what really happens if U hang around long enough!

It's funny just a few years ago it was a mental illness now some act and say not a big deal. I'm sorry combat arms will have so many issue, yes many like those here will say stuff to not take a position against. I'm sorry don't join unless you have made the change, you only hurt a units readiness.

I think, no, I know they are mentally ill.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. They will figure it out.

I am retired now, but in my youth, I always advocated to those who supported gay rights in military that new billets would have to be built that allow Straight male and female and Gay and lesbian. That is what I said as it had to do with the mindset of the 1980's and 90's. Well, those building never got built so it shows what I knew. This issue becomes even harder and gets down to some core & religious beliefs of people on both sides. I am not sure there is an easy answer, and I don't envy the commanders who develop these policies.

Women in men's showers, men's barracks.... is a sure recipe for rape.

I would skip showering and just take a canteen bath or something. Even though the Army just about lost its mind, most soldiers are going to know better and try to avoid seeing what they shouldn't be there.

So a complete set -up question. Stop making our military your "SOCIAL EXPERIMENT" Liberals Suck!

Just wash your butt, don't stare at the other person's junk no matter what form it takes, be respectful and exit. As Ling as the troop is next to you watching your 6, that's all you need to know

If still serving, though I might disagree with the policy, I would respect all. My Christian beliefs challenges me to be kind. I do sympathize with women who might have to shower with biological males. Already, in civilian schools, there has been rapes and we are talking in grades 12 and under. Women deserve respect, privacy, and safety. In my humble opinion.

Blindfolds! What you can't see can't offend you. In many areas around the world, they have unisex bathrooms. I have delt with trans-men and many, many times I had forgotten they were physically female. Also watch Starship Troopers a few times. the key is focus on who they are and not what they are. Sure, it may feel awkward to you, however if you are professional and mature it will not matter. Do you have a female Doctor? Do you every time she makes you turn you head cough, pop a woody, or checks your prostrate? I have a female doctor and my answer to my question is no. Why because we are professional, she is doing her job and I am checking on my health, just as if you're taken a shower you go in you shower dry off get dressed and go. What else are you going to do in an open shower? Be professional and mature

Oh my! Transconfusion
Males to the male shower and females to the female shower. Super simple
Give no attention to their delusion.

Just give the TRs their own shower room. problem solved. Women should not be in a position like this in the first place.

I think they should all be separated in bathrooms and held equally accountable during work/battle hours. We can all act like Klinger during times we are not working