Posted on Jul 16, 2016
How would you accommodate a transgender subordinate in your unit?
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Following RAND's study and the one by the Palm Center previous to that, it's clear that there are thousands of transgender people serving right now.
How should the military accommodate these individuals? Should they be allowed to follow the regs of the gender they identify with? Should facilities be assigned by gender, or the physical sex of the service member?
Constructive responses please.
How should the military accommodate these individuals? Should they be allowed to follow the regs of the gender they identify with? Should facilities be assigned by gender, or the physical sex of the service member?
Constructive responses please.
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It is not the role of the military to accommodate persons who choose to join our institution, it is the role of the individual Soldiers (Sailors, etc.) to conform to the customs and regulations that come with military service. When individuals want to be treated "special" is when they start to lose my support and sympathy.
Ruck up and do your duty, and we will get along smashingly.
Ruck up and do your duty, and we will get along smashingly.
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Sgt Michael Betts
If a transgender person survived Parris Island or San Diego (not bloody likely) and Earned the Title, I would treat he/she/it just like any other Marine. He/she/it would have to do whatever the rest of my Marines did. There would be no "special" accommodations for the Marine's dysphoria over the gender with which he/she/it was born, no matter if he/she it opts to stand up or sit down to take a leak.. He/she/it may either "Get With the Program" or get out.
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MAJ (Join to see)
When our Military Leadership made the choice of kowtowing down to political pressure not based on scientific fact but on life choices that people make, I have to draw the line. We had standards at one time which made our military services the most honorable organizations to be part of. Now, they have lowered all standards across the board to try to appease a .000000009% of the military population who are mentally unstable to the woke and cancel culture groups and look what it has done. Moral is at it's lowest ever, recruitment is at it's lowest ever, training our soldiers is based off of diversity and acceptance instead of actual combat field training, and service members are leaving left and right. I blame our GO leadership for all the above who have place unquestionable and immoral objectives on lower subordinate leadership to deal with these issues.
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SPC Jerry Jones
I agree with you 100%. None of us were accommodated before all this stuff came around (out in the open). Everyone joined, adapted and conformed or they got out. Even the soldiers with some sort of physical handicap had to conform and adapt. Nobody had their hand held.
Once you accommodate all this recent stuff, the military becomes weak. If you have to be accommodated in order to serve, then you shouldn't serve. It weakens the entire group....and a weak core is easily taken down during conflicts.
Once you accommodate all this recent stuff, the military becomes weak. If you have to be accommodated in order to serve, then you shouldn't serve. It weakens the entire group....and a weak core is easily taken down during conflicts.
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PO2 Robert Carrillo
Why should we have to conform to a persons sexual identity, isn’t that forcing us to accept you know that if it continues the military will have to pay for sex change this is what is being use to destroy the worlds greatest military, destroy from within
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THIS IS AN ODD QUESTION... "ACCOMMODATIONS"? I would say ABSOLUTELY NO SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS should be made at all. IF Trans-genders are capable of serving... And the Army is Hell Bent to have them... Then they put up with, do the job and live in the conditions that their normal comrades do. Born a MALE, wear all the women's clothes you want to but you fall under height/weight, BMI and Physical training standards of a MALE not a FEMALE. It is unfair to have a TG max a PT test because the female test is easier than the male test, when He was a he before he was a she. You want to be treated with the same respect as everyone, then EARN that respect by doing the job WITHOUT any Accommodations... OH, and By the way, get used to BORN FEMALE Soldiers not being comfortable with your penis in the female showers and latrines, NOT wanting to share a room with you and the Male Soldiers feeling the same way, BUT since the rights and wishes of the normal Soldiers does not matter...who gives a shit.
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SPC Jeremy Belanger
SSG Roger Ayscue it is not recognized as a mental illness anymore, much like being gay no longer is. I am not sure what you mean by “Likely hood [sic] of violence is not the point. The right to live and not feel harassed is.” Again, trans people are less likely to cause violence or harass people than cisgendered people. The fact that people like you push the false narrative that trans people are a threat does not make it so.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
SPC Jeremy Belanger - the fact that people like you push the agenda that gender is mailable also does not make it so, It is a mental condition not a physical one
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
SSG Roger Ayscue -
I was told online (source stated was the AMA) that the
percentage of 'full conversion' as of December 2022 is a
report as .000054%, roughly 18000 transitioned persons.
I was told online (source stated was the AMA) that the
percentage of 'full conversion' as of December 2022 is a
report as .000054%, roughly 18000 transitioned persons.
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SPC Jeremy Belanger
SFC Ralph E Kelley - feel free to support that statement. Roughly 1/3 of trans people choose to fully transition (not convert). https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/5/13/17938114/transgender-people-transitioning-surgery-medical. I already posted items you can read that shows that it is a physical condition, not a mental one. So I am not going to repeat myself because you refuse to read.
Myth #5: All trans people medically transition
Some transgender people never get surgery.
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In my opinion, I think the best way to handle the situation is to implement one standard for everyone regardless of age or gender. That would include both PT and wear and appearance.
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SPC Scott S
SPC(P) Patrick Westbrook pride, self esteem, moral values. We weren’t all raised like Hunter Biden.
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