Posted on Jul 16, 2016
SPC Angela Burnham
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Following RAND's study and the one by the Palm Center previous to that, it's clear that there are thousands of transgender people serving right now.

How should the military accommodate these individuals? Should they be allowed to follow the regs of the gender they identify with? Should facilities be assigned by gender, or the physical sex of the service member?

Constructive responses please.
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It is not the role of the military to accommodate persons who choose to join our institution, it is the role of the individual Soldiers (Sailors, etc.) to conform to the customs and regulations that come with military service. When individuals want to be treated "special" is when they start to lose my support and sympathy.
Ruck up and do your duty, and we will get along smashingly.
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Sgt Mervyn Russell
Sgt Mervyn Russell
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I was in the military some fifty five years ago, so glad I did not have to contend with this situation. If a person can not pull their own weight in your unit they should not be there. a chain is no stronger than it it weakest leak...... So, no special treatment should be afforded any person. Hate to sound so hard hearted. But this is the military where life or death decision are make in seconds not hours.
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LCDR Ed Etzkorn
LCDR Ed Etzkorn
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Fortunately I retired from the Navy in 1987 & never had to put up with all this shit. I'd love to know how accommodating any "Special" group or spending defense dollars on sex transition drugs/procedures increases the military's ability to fight a war!
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1SG Michael Bonnett
1SG Michael Bonnett
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SSG Mike Merritt - Really? This is from OSHA but honestly common sensse would tell you he will die if he has that beard on. Old wives tale indeed... "1. A copy of the pertinent section of the respirator standard that applies, [29 CFR 1910.134(g)(1)(i-iii)], is enclosed. It states that respirators shall not be worn when conditions prevent a good face seal. Such conditions may be a growth of beard, sideburns, a skull cap that projects under the facepiece, or temple pieces on glasses. This regulation does not ban facial hair on respirator users, per se, from the workplace.

However, when a respirator must be worn to protect employees from airborne contaminants, it has to fit correctly, and this will require the wearer's face to be clean-shaven where the respirator seals against it.

OSHA requires respirators to be used when they are necessary to protect employees against overexposure to air contaminants. When administrative or engineering controls have not kept workplace exposure to air, contaminants within OSHA's established permissible limits, then appropriate respirators must be worn by the exposed employees. The standard ([1910.134(g)(1)(i-iii)]) only applies to those employees who need the protection of a tight-fitting facepiece respirator, either routinely or in emergencies, because of such overexposure.

It does not matter if hair is allowed to grow on other areas of the face if it does not protrude under the respirator seal. Accordingly, mustaches, sideburns, and small goatees that are trimmed so that no hair underlies the seal of the respirator present no hazard and do not violate [1910.134(g)(1)(i)(A)]."
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SP5 James Johnson
SP5 James Johnson
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Back in Nam we wouldn't.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
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THIS IS AN ODD QUESTION... "ACCOMMODATIONS"? I would say ABSOLUTELY NO SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS should be made at all. IF Trans-genders are capable of serving... And the Army is Hell Bent to have them... Then they put up with, do the job and live in the conditions that their normal comrades do. Born a MALE, wear all the women's clothes you want to but you fall under height/weight, BMI and Physical training standards of a MALE not a FEMALE. It is unfair to have a TG max a PT test because the female test is easier than the male test, when He was a he before he was a she. You want to be treated with the same respect as everyone, then EARN that respect by doing the job WITHOUT any Accommodations... OH, and By the way, get used to BORN FEMALE Soldiers not being comfortable with your penis in the female showers and latrines, NOT wanting to share a room with you and the Male Soldiers feeling the same way, BUT since the rights and wishes of the normal Soldiers does not matter...who gives a shit.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
SSG Roger Ayscue
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SPC Jeremy Belanger - Counselor, DNA is just what I believe how?
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SPC Jeremy Belanger
SPC Jeremy Belanger
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SSG Roger Ayscue I would start with DNA is the building blocks, but not the end of biological development, it is in fact the start. You cannot discount all of the other biological and psychological functions that lead to actually creating a person. But also, here’s a study that notes a connection between gene expression and trans people. https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2019/opinion/how-genes-and-evolution-shape-identity#:~:text=But%20accumulating%20evidence%20now%20implies,sexuality%20maintained%20throughout%20human%20history. Of note, “ They looked in fine detail at 12 of the “usual suspects” – genes involved in hormone pathways. They found that transwomen had a high frequency of particular DNA variants of four genes that would alter sex hormone signalling while they had been developing in utero.”
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SSG Gerard Gailes
SSG Gerard Gailes
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That is very blunt said, and correct!
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PO3 Ronald Davis
PO3 Ronald Davis
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SSG Jacey R.
There are TWO SEXES PERIOD,, XX & XY ,, You can't change that,, it is a constant,, until you can change the genetic chromosomes that IS THE REALITY,, Sorry to burst you all's bubble but that's the facts,, so you'll always be a he if you were born that way n you'll always be a she,,
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CW2 Shawn Stevenson
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In my opinion, I think the best way to handle the situation is to implement one standard for everyone regardless of age or gender. That would include both PT and wear and appearance.
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SPC Scott S
SPC Scott S
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A1C Isa Kocher not ok to stereo type. Grooming and perversion will catch up
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SPC Scott S
SPC Scott S
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A1C Isa Kocher literally the problem
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SPC Scott S
SPC Scott S
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SPC William DoyleBeijing Biden
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SGT John Schmelzkopf
SGT John Schmelzkopf
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The DemaKommies had better win in 2024, or many will see the GreyBar Hotel, we are living in some crazy, interesting times. Law Enforcement and Military have been hit hard with Klown Leadership, Milli Vanilli is a Joke that cost many lives! ObamaDen Admin is Keystone Cops without the Comedy. We have allowed these Klowns to destroy at least 2 Generations with the crazy Masks in Schools, Criminal Activity with no Consequences for the Dirt Bag but Termination, even Prison for our LE's. Self Defence is a Crime, Theft and Mugging is a Right! Child Sexual Mutilation and Indoctrination is the Norm and most people are too cowardly to Protest or openly call it what it is. I have no Problem with a person being Gay in Military as long as they wear Uniform Properly and Show Military Decorum. This Transgender Clownery is ridicules and will destroy our Military, due to present leadership (I say that Jokingly), we are on a very close edge for WWIII. God help us if it happens, many will die as we reshape the Forces to a Fighting Force it once was!
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