Posted on Jul 16, 2016
How would you accommodate a transgender subordinate in your unit?
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Following RAND's study and the one by the Palm Center previous to that, it's clear that there are thousands of transgender people serving right now.
How should the military accommodate these individuals? Should they be allowed to follow the regs of the gender they identify with? Should facilities be assigned by gender, or the physical sex of the service member?
Constructive responses please.
How should the military accommodate these individuals? Should they be allowed to follow the regs of the gender they identify with? Should facilities be assigned by gender, or the physical sex of the service member?
Constructive responses please.
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Biologist here. I hope it’s okay to explain a little bit about transgender from the factual standpoint to offset some other replies here that demonstrate a severe and dangerous level of illiteracy.
It shouldn’t be such a surprise that the biology we learned in high school was very basic and left out most details. The X & Y sex determination that some intensely ignorant people are screaming about is only the system mammals use, not any sort of rule. Birds use Z & W. Insects have both of these systems, but they’re obviously very different Xs and Ys than we have. Alligators don’t have sex chromosomes. Fish have multiple and confusing arrangements that include a third variant and several alleles. But these are all systems of sex determination as defined by us, to aid in our understanding. None of it is imposed as some sort of legislation. Every individual instance will be individually unique, within a range of possible outcomes (no human is born with a Z chromosome).
Okay, so now we understand that X & Y is just another way of saying “mammal-like.” Now we need to understand that a chromosome is large polynucleotide, a strand of DNA. Most of what X and Y do is just like the other 31 chromosomes and has diddly to do with sex. But there are several genes here which, in conjunction with genes on other chromosomes, result in masculine and feminine characteristics.
It’s important here to note that DNA isn’t some magical blueprint. It’s only one half of the DNA/RNA protein factory. Proteins are the basis of life. They do almost everything. Protein isn’t “meat.” Proteins are the vast majority of active molecules in the cell, and they’re insanely complex. So complex, that the tiniest mutation in the DNA (the protein recipe book) can, but doesn’t always, completely fuck the whole organism.
So back to X and Y. These are DNA. Everything on the chromosome needs to become a protein. It also needs to be made into the right number of proteins for the right development stage and need of the organism, people. Here is where transgender arises. I feel dirty saying something goes “wrong,” but that’s the scientist in me. Things do indeed go wrong. Things go wrong in all of us. But just like we’re all bad drivers, sometimes the consequences are more, ah, drastic. See, the initial cell created by sperm and egg can become any human cell type, but once it’s, say, a brain cell, it doesn’t ever revert. A brain cell can’t make muscle cells. This means any “mistake,” or mutation in the first brain cell of a developing fetus will be passed to all later brain cells. Mutations occur in every cell division, but fortunately are rare in coding DNA, the bits that matter. But a mutation that will nudge the male/female needle will happen with common frequency.
What does this mean? It means that in a body developing male characteristics, the brain can get switched to female development, and neither the brain nor the body will “correct” the divergence. Long before the first heart beat, the fetus is transgender. A literal female brain stuck in a male body.
As I hope I’ve explained, transgender isn’t some perversion. It’s not a simple “I identify as a fish, a yuk!” mockery. It’s a relatively common and very real genetic condition. Transgender people discuss their options with their doctors and form what is hopefully the best option to find mental health.
Just like the military accommodates myopia, diabetes, hypothyroidism, or cancer, the military can and should accommodate transgender individuals.
“But ew! It’s icky! I read a book that said there’s a sky wizard, and I don’t think the sky wizard would like that!” See, this ignorant shit is the stuff the military should stop making accommodations for.
It shouldn’t be such a surprise that the biology we learned in high school was very basic and left out most details. The X & Y sex determination that some intensely ignorant people are screaming about is only the system mammals use, not any sort of rule. Birds use Z & W. Insects have both of these systems, but they’re obviously very different Xs and Ys than we have. Alligators don’t have sex chromosomes. Fish have multiple and confusing arrangements that include a third variant and several alleles. But these are all systems of sex determination as defined by us, to aid in our understanding. None of it is imposed as some sort of legislation. Every individual instance will be individually unique, within a range of possible outcomes (no human is born with a Z chromosome).
Okay, so now we understand that X & Y is just another way of saying “mammal-like.” Now we need to understand that a chromosome is large polynucleotide, a strand of DNA. Most of what X and Y do is just like the other 31 chromosomes and has diddly to do with sex. But there are several genes here which, in conjunction with genes on other chromosomes, result in masculine and feminine characteristics.
It’s important here to note that DNA isn’t some magical blueprint. It’s only one half of the DNA/RNA protein factory. Proteins are the basis of life. They do almost everything. Protein isn’t “meat.” Proteins are the vast majority of active molecules in the cell, and they’re insanely complex. So complex, that the tiniest mutation in the DNA (the protein recipe book) can, but doesn’t always, completely fuck the whole organism.
So back to X and Y. These are DNA. Everything on the chromosome needs to become a protein. It also needs to be made into the right number of proteins for the right development stage and need of the organism, people. Here is where transgender arises. I feel dirty saying something goes “wrong,” but that’s the scientist in me. Things do indeed go wrong. Things go wrong in all of us. But just like we’re all bad drivers, sometimes the consequences are more, ah, drastic. See, the initial cell created by sperm and egg can become any human cell type, but once it’s, say, a brain cell, it doesn’t ever revert. A brain cell can’t make muscle cells. This means any “mistake,” or mutation in the first brain cell of a developing fetus will be passed to all later brain cells. Mutations occur in every cell division, but fortunately are rare in coding DNA, the bits that matter. But a mutation that will nudge the male/female needle will happen with common frequency.
What does this mean? It means that in a body developing male characteristics, the brain can get switched to female development, and neither the brain nor the body will “correct” the divergence. Long before the first heart beat, the fetus is transgender. A literal female brain stuck in a male body.
As I hope I’ve explained, transgender isn’t some perversion. It’s not a simple “I identify as a fish, a yuk!” mockery. It’s a relatively common and very real genetic condition. Transgender people discuss their options with their doctors and form what is hopefully the best option to find mental health.
Just like the military accommodates myopia, diabetes, hypothyroidism, or cancer, the military can and should accommodate transgender individuals.
“But ew! It’s icky! I read a book that said there’s a sky wizard, and I don’t think the sky wizard would like that!” See, this ignorant shit is the stuff the military should stop making accommodations for.
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The physical sex of a person should determine regs and access to facilities.
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I started my service with Nam vets that did not like the idea of a female soldier. Of course their concerns where right on target as sexual assault cases went through the roof. (at least claims of them did). Now we have a new age of some of the most mentally disturbed people joining the ranks. LGBT have been in the ranks a long time. This brought out don't ask don't tell policies. I saw these policies take out a few but it did not impact the large majority. Most of the Female Soldiers, only ones I knew about, didn't require anyone to call them a HE. In fact they where soldiers and that's what they did. Of course we came through the ranks of the You are not male or female, you are a soldier and your only color is green culture. However, this new age gender stuff hardly even makes any since at all. All I see is the filing of Sexual harassment complaints hitting an all time High.
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It is not the job of the military to accept mental illness. Fix yourself then join.
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There is no accommodating in the US Military. Since the end of the Vietnam War, the military has been all volunteer. People (men and women) voluntarily join the branch of their choice, provided they qualify physically (height, weight, fitness, etc.) and mentally (ASVAB, psych eval, etc.). When they join, they agree to conform to the standards and expectations of the branch and unit to which they are assigned. There are no accommodations needed nor should they be accepted. Society (and business) may offer accommodations as needed. Not the military. We cannot fight a war if we have to worry about gender identity or sexual orientation. If that's who you are, don't join.
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