Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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As an NCO you can NOT give extra duty, restrict to the barracks or take civilian clothing, HOWEVER you CAN assign corrective training, mandate a uniform, and give a duty location.
In the event that you recount, I would assign the task as corrective training, over and over again, to make sure it was done correctly, in a dress uniform requiring an inspection hourly, while assigning a bed for the mandatory 4 hours of rest as required by regulation. THEN...It starts over again, until that young E-2 has a real Come to Jesus moment and is too afraid to open his Cum dumpster. If that does not work, and he continues to run off at the cock holster, document it, and then invite them to a Big Chicken Dinner (Old Army term for Bad Conduct Discharge) SGM (Join to see)
In the event that you recount, I would assign the task as corrective training, over and over again, to make sure it was done correctly, in a dress uniform requiring an inspection hourly, while assigning a bed for the mandatory 4 hours of rest as required by regulation. THEN...It starts over again, until that young E-2 has a real Come to Jesus moment and is too afraid to open his Cum dumpster. If that does not work, and he continues to run off at the cock holster, document it, and then invite them to a Big Chicken Dinner (Old Army term for Bad Conduct Discharge) SGM (Join to see)
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SGT John Hamby
absolutely correct, SSG, that lies with the Company Commander & the 1SG, and as NCO's, it is our duty to enforce said training, extra duty, etc. , within Regulations
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A throat punch sounds appropriate at the time and then allow him to simultaneously drop to the floor. Then tell someone to call 911 and ask if anyone else has a smart ass remark? Then continue handing out work day assignments as before and step over the body.
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make him/her do some damn pushups !! then give them a counseling statement followed by some extra duty.
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SFC William Allen
I watched a PFC do flutter kicks in a hall way because he showed up late for formation one time. He didn't cry or anything afterwards. I was late for PT formation once as an E7 and I voluntarily did flutter kicks in front of the 1SGT's office to show there was no favoritism in that unit.
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Where did all of this “touchy-feely” BS leadership come from? I don’t care if his dog died and his wife is doing free porn with the PX staff. If you do not make an example out of him immediately, you are inviting that same insubordination when bullets are flying and people are dying. The only acceptable response is, “Yes, sergeant.” I’m old school when it comes to dealing with insubordination. When a service member signs their contract, they give up the right to me a snowflake. As a leader, you take care of them, train them and also know what’s going on in their lives so that situations like this almost never happen. I prefer the “you can respect me or you can fear me, but you will execute any legal order given to you” mentality. Also, I and every one of my subordinate leaders will lead by example.
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Rip his head off and shit in his neck; and extra training till he and everyone else in the company knows that is not acceptable.
But hey that's just me.
But hey that's just me.
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I have read several of these responses. Some have made me chuckle, and several have made me shake my head in disbelief. This coddling and know their feelings crap is unbelievable. “It depends on if it’s in garrison or the field”... bulls**t. If someone disrespects an NCO that blantanly, he/she has no respect for any authority and should be dealt with on the spot. Any NCO within earshot should have the SGT back immediately w/o hesitation. Everyone that saw the disrespect should know first hand that it won’t be tolerated in the field, in garrison, and reguardless of what unit they are in. No they don’t have to witness the entire punishment, but they should damn sure see that every NCO is going to be on their ass in half a heartbeat if they disrespect another NCO.
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