Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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Soldier, private or airman (as applicable) you have enlisted in the military. We are not a kindergarten. This is your responsibility, you will do the assigned task or be written up for insubordination. Choose wisely
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Well since wall to wall counseling is out these days.You have many courses of action you can take as a leader. You obviously have to make an example out of this individual so others do not follow and challenge your knowledge and authority. It has to be clear not only to the individual but to everyone else (notice I said individual because this person is not a team player) this type of behavior is unacceptable. If you have been around long enough you have many tools in your kit bag to address these types of issues. Creative corrective training is always a first step but if that fails and some times it does you can always rely on your knowledge of the UCMJ. In the end as a leader must ensure the task or mission at hand will be completed one way or another. It does not have to be completed by that individual but it has to be completed or else your failing as a leader.
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There's a whole host of punitive articles to can use for this one. Step 1: Inform your chief of the situation and start a paper trail. Step 2: Be on him every moment he's in uniform. Step 3: fry him out of the Navy. There's no need for any kind of belligerence no matter how subtle or blatant.
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right that minute he is going to get pulled out .. of formation .. and because this is the "new Army" he will not get the ass whupping he needs.. he will get it other wise .. and every shitty detail for the next month, Make it clear to every one else you can not do this shit . some one said something about being on profile.. then let that private tell the sgt after wards .. or respectful say Sgt. may I say something .. a good sgt will know if they are on profile . no matter what this shit will get you killed in combat. this be nice shit is what is wrong with a lot of young people... "oh I do not want to do that " sorry but some case need a kick in the ass .. since it can not be like it use to be it has to be verbal. and if they respond back with any thing but yes sir.. AR15 time
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Man! I would have wrote his add up asap!! then foward it to My next senior enlisted Navy would be E-6 1st class or Chief Petty Officer E-7
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Back in my day, he'd get a blistering ass chewing he wouldn't forget in front of his contemporaries, then made to drop and give me 50 and put on some shit detail for a week.
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CWO2 Richard Rose
I firmly believe in praising in public and chastise in private. However, outright insubordination would be handled immediately and decisively. I never put up it while I was enlisted and damned sure wouldn't as an officer. I suspect one of my Chiefs would have beat me to it.
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I had this happen to me, what i did was to smile, and tell the young Fireman Apprentice that it was ok he did not have to do that job I had something special for him to do and that he was to standfast after quarters was finished for his assignment. That's when i would take the young man to a private area and verbally convince him why he needed to do as he was told-when he was told-and how he was told while never losing my cool. If that did not work, i turned him over to his fellow e-3 and belows and give them instructions that by the end of the work day, if he had not changed his attitude that none of them would be going on liberty until he had. You would be amazed how fast that young sailor would correct his self.
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