Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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Same way my E5 did it with me... ask if PV2 Snuffy wants to drop rank and roll the clock back to 1966 some place private, like the woodline. Worked for me. Screw counseling and paperwork and this new-age, pansy-a** administrative bulls***.
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I would of flew through the ranks for on his face and knocked him on his ass most likely .
That would never be tolerated and he would of potentially received an ass whopping from me or his Team Leader or Squad Leader .
Article 15 would of potentially came Depending !
That would never be tolerated and he would of potentially received an ass whopping from me or his Team Leader or Squad Leader .
Article 15 would of potentially came Depending !
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Hammer time. E-2 means they have been in long enough to know how things work. To allow outright defiance and insubordination in public invites trouble from others down the line. You either uphold your authority or you make things difficult for other leaders as well. People start thinking, "Well he got away with it, why can't I?" If the defiance is done privately you have other options, if you choose to use them instead.
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I've been out for a long time, but this is the way I handle my students... "You have two ways to play this. One you can do as I ask or two, your way won't be the worst way to leave my classroom. Now can you handle this way in the military? Nope. A quiet discussion of what is the problem. If bad news, deal with it in a better way. If an asshole just wanting to try to assert some kind don't of authority, smoke him....
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KP duty, clean the Latrines, Letter of Reprimand, (I would prefer to choke him, but we can't do that anymore). :-(
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As a warrant, I have the power give the Poor boy at least 2 days in the stockade if he did that to one of my sergeants....Remember I have 2 days to press charges
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Explain why I'm in charge, they join no one forced them and remind them that this could be a long day.
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This happened a long time ago. This didn't happen to me in garrison, but it did happen to me in the field. This troop was one of those guys, it didn't matter how much counseling you gave him, he was just one of those troops that made your live miserable, and had pushed my last button. He was in the back of an ITV. I told him to do something, his response was "f### off". My response was to come out of the turret leading with my size 12's. Caught him dead center of his chest and was on him in a blink of an eye and told him if the next words out of his mouth was not "yes, sergeant". I would make his life a living hell, and that we be having extra training until hell froze over and that the next time he got off post would be to ETS/PCS.. Never had another problem with him. PSG asked me what had happened and I explained we had some "wall to wall" counseling. Not another word was said.
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A kick to the crotch and a fist to the nose, and he does the job you assigned plus cleans every plumbing fixture in the barracks with a toothbrush.
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