Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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What Would You Do
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I would grab the dip shit by the stacking swivel and bitch slap him. Last time I did that was 1981 in Korea to an SGT who told me (SFC) he wasn't going to hump the PRC 25 on the force march. Threw him through the concertina wire and outside the compound. Oh, and he humped the radio that day. Times have changed. (I retired in 2010 with 39 years of service. I've seen the changes since Vietnam in the Army and they haven't been for the good)
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Punish the entire group for his insubordination. No paperwork, just PT and restriction to base. The unit will get him straight on their own and the E-2 will learn a valuable lesson in that the group is more important than the individual.
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Back in the day we called it WALL-2-WALL counseling!!!! There is NO TIME for insubordination... EVER!!!!
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Take that one stripe and take his pay for 2 months making him an E-1 for insubordination...at least that's what would have happened when I was on active duty in the U.S. Marine Corps
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They could be having a bad day or something else could be on their mind that is making them act that way, perhaps their wife asked for a divorce the other day. I'm sure we've all had moments where we've been careless and lost our military bearing because of external factors. I would have a talk with the soldier after the formation and determine if there is any problem the soldier is dealing with. If the soldier has a legitimate problem they are dealing with, I would sympathize but remind them that military bearing must be maintained for the good of themselves and the unit. If the soldier is continually belligerent, then I would recommend them for an Article 15 or offer them a non-physical punishment. From my experience, smoke sessions fix issues having to do with negligence but not so much disrespect or a bad attitude.
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I agree with all replies posed. At no time should any disrespect be allowed. Reminded me of the 1 time I was disrespectful to an NCO. I did regret the action and paid the consequence.
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Crush immediately....! Do not stand for insubordination in formation. Throw it down so hard, that soldier will never look you in the eye again.
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