Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
Posted 9 y ago
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A little extra military instruction could square this individual away because the truth is if he is willing to do that while in ranks then he would be willing to do that in public. Needless to say, being an in Bassett or for the military wow in the eye of the public the military needs to make sure this doesn't take place That being said either he squared some stuff away on must be administratively discharged
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Back in the day, such bozos would be taken out behind the bushes and given an "attitude adjustment." Usually, an ass-kicking would settle things once and for all, as well as serving as an object lesson for the rest of the unit. But that is probably too old school for the modern military.
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This is the action of a two year old. Temper tantrums! That's what children do not the leader of the country
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Last time I had a boot private smart off to me, he met my friend Iron Mike as he was doing them for about a mile with his riffle held high over his head.
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As commander I would have his entire chain of command in my office to witness the article 15 proceedings.
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as an E2 myself i have to agree i and other E2s have no right to challenge or complain about the authority of any nco especially if it is a moral command but even if the nco is being unfair it still is absolutely no merit for any disrespect of any kind. bitch about it on your own time hooah.
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depends on what and how he smart mouth to the E-5 when I was in the service the E-5 would not finder punch a E-1 in the thourt because the E-5 would have been dead by the death touch and fingers and arm broken
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Squash him like a bug and PT till he pukes. Questioning with discretion is one thing, in formation. Very wrong answer.
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not much you can do in todays military. in the old days i would kick his ass to send a message to the other troops! i am in charge and you maggots are gonna do what i tell you to do when i tell you do it it-or else!!
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I actually had a situation similar to this happen. I had assigned a group of students to clean up our radar huts. I went and checked their work and it was substandard. I then went to the class room gathered the students up and we headed for the radar huts so that I could supervise them. A LCPL decided to tell the others how those God D@#m SSGT's think they own the Blank Blanking world. He did so in my hearing. Once he peeled himself off the wall we continued to the radar huts where they spent the rest of teh day cleaning, and cleaning and cleaning.
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I would probably tell him to report to the First Sgt. and tell him that. Has Ha
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Lock him up, put him at ease...initiate immediate Counseling Statement for his file at very least. Depending on the severity of his tone...submit request for Article 15 recommending reduction to E1, to include a fully written explanation to the Chain Of Command.
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I assume in modern times, it's probably no longer ok to punish everyone and ask the platoon to "help" him obey orders.
(By the way, what are those yellow straps they are wearing in the picture?)
(By the way, what are those yellow straps they are wearing in the picture?)
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Granted I am only up to Spc-4. However, if given a chance, I will make him stand fast after formation and explain himself. Smoking him outright will make it worse. However, if he is still insubordinate towards you, you gave him a chance and he blew it, then you can smoke the living hell out of him until he learns to respect. At the end of the day, at least you can say you gave him a chance to explain on why he's being insubordinate towards you.
Being in a unit (or formation) is like a well-oiled machine. Everyone has to do their part. If there is a problem, then that problem needs to be investigated so a possible solution can be made (within regulation). I've been told to disseminate to my subordinates (yes, I had a few privates that my SGT gave me to look after) any info/tasks needed to be done by the chain of command that I never had a problem in doing so. Leadership is all about keeping your cool, but being firm.
Being in a unit (or formation) is like a well-oiled machine. Everyone has to do their part. If there is a problem, then that problem needs to be investigated so a possible solution can be made (within regulation). I've been told to disseminate to my subordinates (yes, I had a few privates that my SGT gave me to look after) any info/tasks needed to be done by the chain of command that I never had a problem in doing so. Leadership is all about keeping your cool, but being firm.
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Tell E2 and his first line supe to stand fast after formation. Allow him to speak his mind, and then discipline accordingly.
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