Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
Posted 9 y ago
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Never been in the military but doesn't the E2 understand why there is a chain of command? And isn't he supposed to follow all lawful orders without question?
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I never had the desire to become a an Army Ranger. All due respect to them all. I was awarded a GLCM tab while active duty in the USAF in 1990. I'll take it.... HU-AH?!
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hard to say i was 28ndABORNE ADA I think i would put the feer of god back into his ass and if that dident work he would be the first one i would put ON POINT next HOT mission
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Smoke the shit out of him. The private needs to know he's to follow orders given to him if the orders are not unlawful. If the private can't or will not follow simple orders in basic, the private is going to get him/herself killed or someone else.
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Smoak him. A PFC who can smart off to a Sgt, obviously didn't get smoaked enough in basic.
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Smoke the shit of him, restrict him to the Barracks, assign extra duties, take away privileges, and sign-out and in when he goes to church and chow.
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I would tell him to stand fast. I would then proceed to counsel him if he persisted, I would then give him an Article 15.
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I simply think that if your in training then everything you do goes toward a mindset of what ifs, just follow here for a second. HE SHOULD BE GLAD HE GOT THROAT PUNCHED. What if he has been captured and decided to talk back or give a smart ass answer to his captures ? Would have been alot worse . I don't believe in the stress cards or babying in any way of your in the millitary especially if you only have a year in and haven't deployed . You are there to grow and become better and stronger both mentally first and physically ,if you wanna be a whiney bitch then go back home and maybe just maybe your mother will put up with it .
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I would reorient him harshly to whom is superior and give him Xtra PT so he can meditate on authority!
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Bring the smoke. No soldier has the right to defy a direct order. If you were on the battle field a life could and will be lost. We train to be ready at all times. This not a job it is a duty.
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In a high stress nonroutine environment I would assign the order to another qualified individual. In a low stress routine environment I would inquire from the individual why they felt the order was immoral, illegal or unethical. Upon their response I would inform them that the order is in fact morally, legally and ethically enforceable. If the individual still did not carry out the order I would inform them that uniform code of military justice proceedings for an article 15 hearing would be required. I would then make my report to the chain of command.
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Tell them to stand by after formation, counseling, then I personally always like taking someone's libo time away if they can't do what they are supposed to at work. You waste my time I'll waste yours
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Situation would not happen.... Period. Training and respect is what it is.. Orders adhered to or UCMJ correction.
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