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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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PO2 Wesley Duncan
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Take him aside and explain why he should do as instructed.
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Jeffrey Stokes
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Soap party is everyone have 14 23 hour days of practice due to smart ass
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SFC Jose Ortega
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First I will set him straight and then he will be written up with a recommendation for UCMJ, for disobey a law order and disrispect!
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A1C Mary Butler
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You will do it and do it now and like it! Because you were given a. Order now follow it
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SSG Michael Taylor
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There's a saying " kill em with the pen" keep counseling him and if he wants to stay he will change...if not, let him out
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LCpl Edward Roddy
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Everyone out except you PFC.
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SP6 Carl Clark
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I have him assume the proper position of Parade Rest. Explain to him he has crossed the line into being disrespectful and he will receive a counseling statement and he will be recommended for FAILURE TO FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS, DISRESPECT TO AN NCO, FAILURE TO PERFORM HIS DUTIES. Then I will tell him his assignment again and if he refuses his counseling statement will reflect he was given a second chance to comply and he failed to follow instructions for the second time as well as his actions are leading toward trying to have others follow his acts of insubordination
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SGT Odis Gaines
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Extra duty.
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LCpl Kirk Seward
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Just start pushing, bends and mother f****** thrust or go out to the back 40 and police your own.
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SN Lewis Oliphant
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Break them down for some PT until they get their head out of their ass
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SGT Mike Ange
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Pvt DA and his team leader stand fast after formation. Opportunity to explain and in the extremely likely event that there is no adequate explanation - nip this in the bud quickly with extra duty and a counseling statement
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SSG Anthony Bozarth
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Tell him that if he doesn't like it then he can change the policy when he out ranks me, and to do it anyway. Then tell him that if he doesn't do as I have instructed him, that he will be reporting to me in front of the First Sergeant.
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SGT Rodney Friedman
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Ask him to correctly breaks ranks and get the fuck out of my army...send him str8 to platoon srg for immediate discharge....because if he acts like this in the states...what u think he gonna do over seas
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SSG Corletta Madison
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I will ensure to have that Soldier standfast, after finishing out what is needed to have the rest of my troops actively engaged I will return to the situation at hand with such Soldier. I will first start by inquiring if the SM had anything pressing going on that the leadership (myself) isn't aware of, whether it be financial, work related, home, substance abuse, alcoholic, etc. If it is such a situation where he/she does, I will ensure to handle it at the same time also ensuring the SM that his/her actions doesn't go unpunished...engage the SM with such a corrective action that he/she won't forget to loose their military bearing again.
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SP5 Matthew Jurkas
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I would smoke his ass
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PO2 Gary Caron
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Slap the puke grass party after then restricted to base
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SrA Mark Cash
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Throat punch..lol
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SSgt Elia Tunupopo
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Line train .
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PFC Ronald Vickery
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Put him/her on report
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PO2 Sean Thornton
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I thankfully only had one instance they got close to this and it was after I had plenty of time in leadership positions.

While underway my partner (undesignated AN) and I were roving the ship and came across a deck seaman chipping paint in a p-way. We always carried ear pro on us and put ours in as we needed to pass through the space. As we did, I noticed the seaman didn't have any ear pro at all, at least he had safety glasses. I tap him on the shoulder as we pass by and signal that he needs plugs or muffs while chipping. He half nods and mouths "whatever ". My partner and I continue on to ththe hangar bay door and wait. My partner steps through and I continue to watch said seaman. He looks up at me and I motion again for him to get hearing protection, he just goes back to chipping. Fast forward, my partner takes some foamies to the kid who motions "no thanks" an we escort the kid to the hangar bay. I'm talking to him and he's just bobbling around looking at the bulkheads, the deck, everywhere except at me. So I brought him back to boot. Back to attention, yes Petty Officer, no Petty Officer, that stuff. We taught him the rank structure again; the chain of command; lawful orders. After that was done, we went and had a friendly chat with this kids LPO, and then the ship She safety LCPO. We brought the entire ship down on this kid. I saw him two weeks later mustering with the restricted sailors for extra duty.
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PFC John Vasquez
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Have him push the pavement until he can't no more than have him do flutter kicks til he can't then give him latrine duty on top of that KP and to top off have mop and buff barracks floor
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1LT Clay Thomas
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As a Platoon Leader, I often let my Sergeant handle the small stuff. He spoke loud and thunderously. When it was my turn, I took them aside and whispered to them. If you wish to act like a Private, I can certainly arrange it. Do your job.
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SPC Paul McCluskey
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Continue to make clear who is in charge
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MSgt Michelle Backus
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I would whisper in their ear of the consequences if they do not do it. Now it's a comment just between me and that individual.
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MSgt Terry Dorsey
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Article 15
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MSgt Terry Dorsey
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I would take him out of ranks and repot him to my Commander for insubordination and article 15.
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CPL J S Campbell
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Platoon, Front leaning rest position, move.
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SGT Randy Lavasseur
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If my other soldiers didn't already didn't correct him I would instantly pull him into the treeline and offer him a blank 4856 or a bottle of water and make him choose. Or we can make it old school and do some close door counseling.
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SGT Randy Lavasseur
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The sign of early leadership if you are doing the right thing your other soldiers should dig in his ass. You still have to stack on tho. Make them feel they are not on the team and make that top priority on their mind. Reverse psychology
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SN Ryan Sturge
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Stone Cold Stunner
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Lawrence Rooks
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Don't they go to the brig for refusing orders? I'm just a civilian, but it seems to me that such a break down in discipline will get other soldiers killed in battle. Whatever the E5 decides to do, I hope it's harsh.
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SrA Matthew Piles
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Give it to him anyway
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MSG Senior Enlisted Advisor
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in today's army military the correct response would be something to the affect of I gave you an order and you will execute. Then a trip to your supervisor and have discussion with said soldier (assuming you are right)the next higher NCO would hear both sides and explain what is going to occur. Usually that is either, look knuckle head you're in the military execute or you can grandstand and I'll recommend you for UCMJ. Then you get the joy of hoping your commander supports NCOs and doesn't buy the excuse of the insubordination being someone else's fault. As combat arms soldier this didn't happen often and usually the threat of taking free time to ensure the issues were properly addressed by corrective training conducted by me after 1800 or UCMJ was enough. The best way to get compliance is to take time or money, and as an NCO (depending on your command group) time is something NCOs control. As an E5 you can expect to get grown up kids trying to push their boundaries. I would encourage quick action as once you get a person like that in your unit, if you can't get them to do anything, or they refuse to be useful it will cause morale issues when other people have to work harder to compensate for the weakest link.
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PO3 Carl Reedy
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Use positive criticism for the lower ranking individual. Assure that he/she understands what is expected of them is not a burden but a detail of learning and knowledge.
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Cpl Wayne Fletcher
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I would calmly give him a page 11 counseling and then e definitely would be pulling duty for a week in the common area; so everybody could see that mouthing off doesn't pay!
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PO2 Jeffery Horan
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This happened to me. E2 tells me she didn't join the Navy to clean floors. She learned about sweeping parking lot with a toithbrush.
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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I've seen this many times and these, the toxic ones, themselves.
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SGT Daniel Banks
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I'd have to agree with GySgt Pepper, shit rolls down hill and you have to trust in the chain of coomand
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MSG Daniel Holmes
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They would be pushing dirt for a month.
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Cpl Mark Hopp
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We don't need back talking spoiled punks in the military. They will get people killed.
Instant and willing obedience to all orders!
Or get the Fock out!
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PFC Steven Jones
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After I'm done with Him, He would be able to join the Olympic Track Team!!!!
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PV2 William Rennhack
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Give'em C.Q. every weekend for a year.
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AN Earle Brown III
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As an E-3 who screwed up more than once never did I lose my Military bearing. Do as you are told and suck it up. crap rolls down hill and as the bottom man you get what you get and thats the end of it. I believe a extra Military instruction is immediately in demand
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Paul Brown
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Give them extra duties to preform
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PO1 Steve Schulman
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EMT
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LCpl Bobbie Hopson
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Well I served before all the political correctness crap, personally I would deal with it the way I was dealt with. I would not so politely take him and 9 of his buddies to the sand box and have him thrash the nine till they puke. After what his peers do to him there will be alot more respect shown to higher rank structure.
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Neal Fallen
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Run him until he pukes and run him more, then 200 push- ups and 300 sit ups
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Neal Fallen
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Tell them to get their butt in gear and do the task or clean latriene
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SPC Grant Cross
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Smoke them till he pukes
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SFC James Earl Caldwell
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School him
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LCpl Jeffrey Moss
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I told anyone to take out the trash he said whiny I grabbed him by the throat and said because I f****** told you to
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LCpl Jeffrey Moss
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But that was over 40 years ago
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Rick Grant
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7000 push-ups, before his 12 mile hike in full gear
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PO2 Omar Clayton
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Anchor windlass therapy
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Josh Powell
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I'd throat Puch him
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Roy Peterkin
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Knife hand to the throat
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Cpl Jason Helmers
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I cant speak for any service but my beloved Marine Corps, good luck Pfc. Yur gonna need it!! Bwahahaha!!!
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SSgt Aaron Mills
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Find the worst job I can possibly think of and give him the choice of taking it from me or getting written up and getting that job for a week from the Chief or First Sergeant. If it went to our Commander, he would be an E1
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SGT Matthew Michel
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Chain of command. This isn't Walmart. Might seem simple to a civilian. Orders are given. Orders are followed. In Garrison or In Combat. Doesn't make a difference. Never had any reason to get physical unless in defense. Words have power just like muscles. If that were me, that Pvt. would have been doing front, back, go's for days! And then he would have still completed his task given. Period!
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LCDR T Holom
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The lack of overall leadership is evident by the observation how many of the formation maintains the order of "ATTENTION". I observe a failing military leadership scenario...in that the graphic pic indicates a DOD training environment (necks all over the place/sloppy appearance/Tennis shoes,lines on the deck, & squad bay atmosphere). If a combat situation...it is obvious the E2 not impressed by the fake "Senior E5" chop....
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SPC Richard Craig
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Football drill in a mud puddle! I had to do it!
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PO2 Fred Parks
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You have him drop and give you 50 push-ups and when he is done inform him he has extra duty for the next week. After the formation is dismissed (after he is done the 50 push-ups) take him into your office and find out what is malfunction is
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A1C Holly Smith
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I had a female in the bunk in basic next to me mouth off then tried to go over the Sgt head. Let's just say she was never touched physically but she ended up getting a ticket home less than half way through
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A1C Holly Smith
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GySgt answer sounds about right
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Reggie Killion
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Give him 1 week of training to remind him that insubordination can mess your life up and exta duty.
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SP5 David LaGrua
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Think I'd art 15 and put him on the streets...no room for that in military.
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PO2 Gunner's Mate
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"Stand By"
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Damien Gaines
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Smoke the the hell out of him.
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SPC Terry Beach
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in my day, you had no choice.. you obeyed the order..
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LCpl Mark Juarez
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As a Cpl I chew him out in from of everyone to show I am not playing around. And, not to question my authority. But if the problem consist than it would involve, paper work or NJP. But, that will always be the last option. No one deserves to lose money. I grew up in the Old Corps where people played games with you before, you got written up.
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Elvis Sequeira
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I would give him a swirly but since there's laws saying you can't really haze them I mean it's war you know what I'm saying u can navy that to make him look prettier
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PO1 E.J. Burris
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I had the E-2 stand off to the side while I finished handing out the rest of the assignments & then dismissed everyone else. I gave the E-2 a chance to explain his actions, then I gave him a talking to that showed him the error of his way!
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SP5 Donald Bittner
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Well I was in during the seventies and at that time if you had insubordination as described above you would take the private for a private walk behind the barracks.... and he would return to formation with a whole new Outlook
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SPC Dave Campbell
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Respond accordingly
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SFC Claude Byrd
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Continue to hand out work assignments. Release the rest and have him stand fast. If you deal with him right then he gets the reaction he wants from you and the rest of the platoon.
Tell him the he is very funny but you will inform the rest of the platoon that due to his actions they will due extra duty each day untill his attitude has changed. When he ask why just smile and tell him to get to work. Let the platoon fix his attitude!!!
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LCpl Donald Marks
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article 15 of course...
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SGT Robert McEldowney
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I'd smoke him right there then verbally abuse him and if he doesn't get the point send him to see the platoon sergeant which in my days would have a visit to the First Sergeant and NOBODY wanted that!
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PFC Curtis V Godfrey Jr.
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Stand your ground and make him do it physically if necessary
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A1C Reynold Redler
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A very long hike with heavy gear
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SP5 Kevin Hawkins
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Smoke his ass!
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Pvt Kenneth Kelly
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I'd probably drop him so fast, that he wouldn't have enough time to think about his next move. Gauretee he'd think twice before opening his pie hole the next time
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PO3 John Kruppstadt
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I would have him doing PT
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SPC Jason Nations
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Pt the hell out him
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SGT Horizontal Construction Engineer
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He would be beatin his face until I started to sweat
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Capt Health Services Administrator
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Start pushing until you realize this ain't your mom's house. Welcome to the military.
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Crystal Williams
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Smoke his whole squad.
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CSM Charles Dodge III
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The sergeant has a different problem by as been in setting the tone for this to happen in the first place. That private his unit for a few months and shoots his mouth off like that? The relationship between the sergeant and the private is destroyed, but the biggest challenge is the unit under the sergeant's charge.
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MSgt Gw Lupton
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Edited >1 y ago
What the (insert rank) meant to say was .....I'll get right on that....it just came out wrong. Isn't that right (insert name and rank) who now has latrine orderly after shift for two weeks. I see your (insert number of stripes) and I raise you (insert number of your stripes) are we playing poker? Would you like to call? Because the next sequence of events sounds like this.....But Officer, but judge, but warden! Ante-up hero!
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SSgt Mark Gamroth
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KP and Latrine duty for a week by himself
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SP5 Ralph Mitchell
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Discipline
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LCpl David Vettore
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Push- ups 200
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SPC James Powell
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Have him dig a 6 X 6 X 6 with a trenching tool.
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Lisa Calloway
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PFC dumb ass, you will not only clean the shit house today, but also tomorrow, and the day after that and the day after that, and just for shits and giggles, PFC dumb ass you will continue to clean the shit house everyday after that until the day arises that you have become so sufficient at cleaning the shit house that you are able to clean up after your battle buddies prior to their individual need to sit and shit on a daily basis,
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