Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
Posted 9 y ago
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I would tell him to run to a tree and tell the tree that he's a dumbass. Then I would make him do 5 five pushups. That's right. Just five pushups. For FIVE MINUTES. A set of five pushups lasting 5 minutes....EVERY TEN MINUTES.
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Dismiss everyone besides the PFC who opened his mouth then once all others have been dismissed the Sgt x needs to show this PFC what respect for a higher rank means when an NCO tells you to do something you do it you don't ask questions and you sure in the hell don't mouth off to them hell they teach you that during in processing at basic before your drill Sgt even gets you
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Instantly up in their face..forcefully explaining what orders are...order them down for 50 push-ups. While they were doing the push-ups, I would remind the rest of the barracks as to the consequences of disobeying a direct order. Then they would do the task that they were ordered to do in the first place.
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Give a directive order for the non military attitude e2 to fulfill his obligation to the company , counceling statement e2 and sign .
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I am a civilian but have had leadership positions all my life - this actually happened to me. I asked all personnel to give me the room while I spoke with the offenders immediate superior and the insubordinate. I told his immediate superior we have obviously failed in management and he and I would correct this failure - there is no excuse for having a subordinate failing to respect our authority. Then I addressed the insubordinate: He will comply with any reasonable request and he would face disciplinary action consistent with corporate policy. Any future insubordination would result in immediate termination. The director in my area backed me 100% and the individual was demoted and put on probation - he also got all the shit jobs for the next 6 months and eventually quit.
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FLASH BACK 43 YEARS AGO FOR ME, 1 BN ALPHA CO PLATOON 115....oooo rah Semper Fi
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Report to my First Sgt.. Explain situation. Request that E2 visit Commander and be giving an Article 15
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Give them the shit job. They have no choice in the matter. Hirer ranking person told you to do it.
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what! soldier where do u think you r, this isn't Mcdonalds, this is the U>S> Army, and u will carry out the tasks i assigned you to, or we will be taken a different kind of action, one i know you will not like.
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I drop him then and there continue doing what I was doing dismiss everybody but one "battle buddy" and we do some PT. I have a special cadence for this kind of yahoo kinda shit he will cry and I will have his battle standing by so to ensure that it doesn't become a wall to wall and I will do every thing snuffy does every push up every lunge he will remember it and hopefully use it.
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