Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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dismiss the flight, hold him over, talk to him if he goes negative write him up.
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First off I've not encountered this type of misconduct in the 6 years off my service before my medical discharge... That being said, there's no excuse for their behavior, and would be in serious need of reprimand. Just plain old physical exertion would not be enough to impress the importance of the chain of command. Its my belief that an article 15 would just be starters for docked pay exta-duty and re education on the chain of command would be in orderand up to a court martial if the issue persists. So for starters. Its 10 pushups for each soldier in attendance (battery size) platoon size would be 20 each xtra pt, kp, and guard duty as well as a written apology for each soldier for the blatant lack of dicipline and to put in the paperwork to strip them of rank.
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My belief is that while you are in the military you depend on your brothers, you depend on everyone doing their job you're only as strong as the weakest link. Right. So you make that duty his for the next 6 months then you give him something else not to mention you make sure that the rest of the team, squad, platoon what have make sure they understand how teamwork has succeeded or failed, in this example the team, squad, platoon has failed so therefore the team, squad, or platoon should be punished as one
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Chung Moo Kwan
If he is telling you he isn't capable or skilled enough to do something then maybe ask why are you refusing this order
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Pull him aside and show him the errors of his way,behind the water cooler
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Well first of I would tell that soldier to stand there at parade rest, while I ask him a few questions like what seems to be his issue , because apparently he lost his freaking mind at this point. Two once he tells me his/her issue, I would come out with a plan of action for this issue. Then I would counsel him/her for disrespecting a noncommissioned officer, and then come out with a punishment that fits the crime.
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Back to basics... Foot goes down, and my mouth performs an ass chewing until results commence!
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There is no easy answer... an e2 already is aware of their responsibilities. An e5 is not a snco... chain of command has its place... an nco is there to delegate responsibility. ... to me it would depend on the e2 that I am working with. ... I wouldn't power thrust in formation. ... I would tell them to report to our immediate snco after formation. ... I would recommend charges as an example. ... jmo
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He would be doing Dogtag push-ups till I got tired. Then I would write him up for in subordination. After a long talk with him. If it ever happened again he would be in front of the CO faster than he could say oh shit.
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Light his arsenal up making him understand how royally he screwed up to disrespect rank while surrounded by peers.
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