Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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The problem is the new young Kats coming in are making things more difficult then what they even need to be anymore with smart remarks and back talk like it's ok. Do what you're told and move on with you're damn day .
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He would be held back from formation along with his team leader and squad leader. They would be reprimanded for failure to train and lead their subordinates. My treatment of this PFC would depend on his attitude once the formation was dismissed. There is no such thing as a bad troop, only bad leaders and Instant obedience to orders is not just a cute sentiment, it's the law of the Marine Corps land.
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I would call the MP's and have him arrested. I would submit the packet to let him spend a few weeks in military confinement, that will change his tune.
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In the Navy I would hand his ass over to the Senior Chief and most likely his little smart mouth would end up at Captains mast.
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First, the order will be repeated, if refused a second time, front lean and rest position move, if refused time to meet the C.O., afterwards if refused, time to make him her a civilian.
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E2 needs his butt kicked. Not acceptable behavior and he and the whole unit need to know it. Nip it in the bud as one other response said is exactly what needs to happen. The military is not there to molly coodle you. Suck it up and do your assignment.
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Dismiss the rest of the formation except for the PV2 and is first line supervisor. Ask him what made him respond this way? If it is simply an issue of being entitled his whole life and having issues with authority, then take the appropriate steps. Explain the difference between lawful and unlawful commands and that lawful commands aren't up for discussion. If it is an authority issue, ART15 and continue to track the soldier.
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I haven't been around the battalion every formation for 2 weeks KP four month and it be polishing my boots for that timing. And take that are girl 15 with you while you're at it now get down to do me 50
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I haven't been around the battalion every formation for 2 weeks KP four month and it be polishing my boots for that timing. And take that are girl 15 with you while you're at it now get down to do me 50
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In my day this would have been an ass kicking right in front of everybody! Sand pit was used a lot to "correct" behavior. Second go around if the physical didn't work was UCMJ actions.
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Private E2 would be required to stand fast while the rest of his Platoon moved out to begin the days' assignments. I would then tell him in private that he has joined an elite group of individuals to defend his country. Loyalty and instant obedience is a requirement to keeping himself and the others in his squad alive. And if he isn't compliant then discipline or dismissal are his options. He hasn't signed up for a Garden Party, He has signed up willing to DIE for his country.
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Instruct everyone that they will be punished because of this piece of trash, and then I'd PT the everloving shit out of them.
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Private talk behind closed doors! It will only take once and the example will be set!
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