Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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I have been out for awhile but I heard a rumor that new recruits in basic are given red cards for stress and if the stress level get to much for them to wave said card and the DI's have to back off and let said recruit alone until they are no longer stressed. this scenario could be a aftermath of that if the rumor is correct. And after reading some of the responses I would just dredge up a couple of old punishments that my DI gave out in basic, grass drills for said Pvt2 until I got tired, had the rest of the rest of the platoon/squad/fireteam go about their assigned tasks
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Well I went to Parris Island in 2007 and I promise you this would never happen anyways.. i went to Iraq with Sgt. Miller in the picture and I assure you he was my squad leader and got nothing but respect and would beat your ass if you thought about telling him to shove it..
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An Ass chewing in in order at this point as well as this shit birds direct PO / Supervisor. If no result is produced, article 15.
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I would reissue the order. If refusal again, I would send the closet soldier by the door to get another Drill Instructor or Officer if I am by myself. I would start ordering this Private to do physical exercise right there while giving the Soldier an earful directly in front of the other Soldiers. Once, another ranking staff person arrived, I would order the Private back to attention and reissue the order. If order is refused, then I would place my hands on the Soldier and physically start moving the Soldier in the direction I want the Soldier to move. If there is resistance from the Soldier I would take the Soldier to the ground and inform the Soldier that you will obey and follow orders or suffer the repercussions for disobeying. Once this has been done, hopefully the Soldier would have a change of mindset and follow the order. My actions would have to be carried out in front of the other Soldiers as a deterrence mechanism that this could be you if displaying the same type disobedience.
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Well, because I already clarified my lawful order in a calm fashion, and this knucklehead decided to tell me to "shove it", it's time to introduce this troop to the wonderful world of UCMJ action (aka Article-15). Regardless of who you are and where you come from, EVERYONE typically responds to the loss of money out of their pay for disobeying a direct and lawful order, and being selected as "the example" of what NOT to do. Punishment needs to be swift, deliberate, meaningful, and in this unique case "public", in front of the unit, so as to discourage even the thought of anyone else questioning orders from superiors.
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