Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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I would slap the fuck out of him and demand that he give me a hundred fifty push ups
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In the Air Force I would first pull that member into my office and get to the bottom of the issue. I have learned never to jump to conclusions and to know all the circumstances in the member's life. Depending on the circumstances, some form of administrative action is definitely warranted, but mental health or a chaplain may need to be involved as well. However, if after investigating, the member is having a power contest with the superior, I (or a member higher in the chain) would issue a written reprimand with the member in full service dress at attention directing the member this is the member's only warning before the First Sergeant recommends punitive action to the Commander and good order and discipline is expected.
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when I first joined you don't talk back to your NCO's or else you will be in the dark side.. I mean extra duty until you get tired.. Not in today's military.
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In my day my boot would be so far up is ads he could taste the boot polish
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Let your local squad "mafia" do their job,by helping him in his task.Send a BIGGER guy who knows his job.
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take him outside for some fun in the sun...add whatever activity comes mind.
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Senior Drill SGT. for 2.5 yrs, an Infantry Plt. Sgt. for 11 yrs. Never had this happen to me. Deportment, and demeanor by a leader will nip this kind of behavior in the bud. But if it did. Sqd.Ldr and I would inform the soldier of a recommendation for an Art. 15. No buts or reasons accepted!
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PO2 Brett Rowland
Could read them the riot act too. I heard this happening before but not in my outfit.
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Give him that job for an entire week then give him bathroom detail for a week and pt early and twice a day for a week. Make him to 1500 push ups and 4000 sit ups and 200 crunches due by the next roll call
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But then again I haven't been to basic but everyone tells me that is what would happen and you'd most likely get an ART15 and the business end of a boot back home
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politely ask him to get in the prone position . then step on his throat .& tell him , I am here to try to save your life . In real life you do not have the choice . And this is real life !
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I would do the same thing I did to a PFC in Vietnam when he refused my orders. I took him to the Co.and had him wait out side the office.I told the Co. what had happened and the soldiers name rank. and what he had orders to do.I recommended the Co. serve an article 15 to the soldier. The
Co. followed through with the charges and busted the soldier back down to a PVT E-1. the soldier also refused the same order from the Co. He was later that day transferred to HHC as a undesirable.
Co. followed through with the charges and busted the soldier back down to a PVT E-1. the soldier also refused the same order from the Co. He was later that day transferred to HHC as a undesirable.
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After hours EMI and if continued disobedience then 1/2 day motivation at CC facility at Stone Point. Inform PFC continued disobedience will result in page 11 counseling and reflection in PRO/CON marks followed by article 32 office hours and/or court-martial as necessary.
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As an NCO, it is up to you to set the standard from the start. Conduct your self as an NCO. You have a sit down with all new people coming under your command. You tell them what you expect of them and what you will not put up with, period. In my 40 years in the military, I have never had a problem like that. You have to set the frame work that makes them willing to follow you esp. in combat. Every day you are training them for combat, that is the bottom line.
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I would be dumbfounded at their audacity for a split second, then I would set his whole life on fire.
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