Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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Inform them that if they do not accept this assignment there are other jobs worse than this one.
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While the E2 is standing at attention the rest of the group is now doing push-ups etc. all on account of the E2, that would only be the start of it.. For the next 24 hrs no one would sleep and be doing crap details except the E2.. pillow parties will fix this issue.
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Sounds like a soldier who doesn't want to be there. If race or gender is a factor, I would suggest being careful and have another NCO present when you verbally discipline the soldier away from the others. Keep in mind that if there is one thing the military loves to do is, screw an NCO for harassing an junior soldier.
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SGT Randall Smith
In 1966 while in Germany we had a Saturday morning inspection by the CO. When they got down to one of the Pvt's that just got to our unit the 1LT, our CO, stopped and told the First that his man had a bad smell and needed a haircut. Really embarrassed the Top. Which was not very smart. After the inspection the Top called all of us to the Day Room and explained how he never wanted to be put in that position again and we would make sure the Pvt had a shower and haircut by 06 hundred the next morning. We talked to him, since we all lost our passes for the weekend, and he told us to get screwed, he had not bathed in a week and was not going to until he was kicked out.
About 11 pm that night he was dragged from his bunk and taken to the showers. With bristle brushes he was bathed and then with regular scissors he got his hair cut. His attitude was discussed. At 06:30 the Top came in our room and inspected all of us. He told the Pvt that he looked and smelled better but his haircut needed to be improved. He did not talk to any of us for the next 5 months. Then a levey came down and he was shipped out to Nam.
About 11 pm that night he was dragged from his bunk and taken to the showers. With bristle brushes he was bathed and then with regular scissors he got his hair cut. His attitude was discussed. At 06:30 the Top came in our room and inspected all of us. He told the Pvt that he looked and smelled better but his haircut needed to be improved. He did not talk to any of us for the next 5 months. Then a levey came down and he was shipped out to Nam.
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We had that problem once when I was in. A SP4 (Specialist) from 2nd Fire told an E-5 from an A&T platoon to F off after the Sergeant gave the SP4 an order. The SPC was arrested and sent to the stockade in Mannheim for three months under a new colonel. He returned a completely different person. The charge was something like disobeying the lawful order of an NCO. We were all surprised. The SPC was very short by the time he came back from the Heim as an E-1 and he was convinced he was no longer Special Forces material nor was he a lifer. He wanted to keep his head down, do whatever they told him and get out.
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Hmmm....Let's see, first I would call out the team leader and have him take said soon to be dead meat PFC to the side and detain him there until I was finished the other soldiers. Once finished with them, I would calmly explain to him that either followed lawful orders or the consequences will be dire. To punctuate the meaning I would then have the team lead take said moron PFC out to the PT field and run him until said PFC puked his guts out and then run him some more. If that didn't take the starch out of his shorts, then I'd put him on report.
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At this point its already gone to far! You start smoking his bags in front of all his peers, flutter kicks, front back go's etc. Until you get tired! There is no room for this in the military!
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