Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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Give to someone else and give him a more shitty detail again and again and again until he's had enough and give it to him again . Eventually have a face to face to find out what his problem is with taking orders .
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Calmly explain to the private how failing to follow a legal command by an NCO can lead to disciplinary actions on the U.C.M.J. and then smoke his ass in the yard until the remaining soldiers complete the daily duties. Both should drive discipline into the Private without having to go the article 15 route.
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I really hate to say this, but this issue depends on which era of Leaders you are talking about. In my Old School Military Experiences, there would be no tolerance at all regarding insubordination of any kind. Today though, a Superior has to weigh his reaction with the Modern Adopted Rules and Regulations to keep from ending or destroying their Careers!!! It's probably good I retired when I did. No Offense Intended with today's Leaders but I'm Old School Military and my Watch is over as I Stood Relieved in 2002! Doc Bradshaw
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The foolish young troop will not only do the assigned task today but for the next week or until I'm convinced they have figured out where they fit in the BIG machine! I had this happen with a work detail ONCE! We had 25-30 double doors with brass knobs and large cover plates on both sides. Over the next 2 weeks she polished all of them! From then on I was known to the work details that came to our building as "Sgt. Brass"!
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Step into my office PRIVATE!!! Leave no identifying marks when he crawls back out!!!
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Place the E2 in charge of the formation and take them all out for Physical Training (all day)
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As the senior Sgt, i would have taken the Pvt and his Sq Ldr into the office . First the sqd ldr and informed him that he will MAKE sure Pvt never pulles this mess again. Then bring in Pvt and inform him that he has shown disrepect and disobeyed a lawful order from a NCO. Then ask Pvt do u want to continue in the service? His answer will dictacte if he stay's or goes.
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1SG Mark Reed
Sounds like counseling isn't going to get his attention. Time to get him in front of the Co and lighten is bank account. If a written counseling doesn't work and $ out of the pocket fails to motivate him, show him the door. THE Army has become to soft for my taste. That's why crap like this goes on.
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Sgt A.J. Apodaca
My beloved Marine Corps has changed so much. Hands on training would have fixed the problem. If that kind of training doesn't work, then I would have sent him off to the "Motivation Platoon." If that doesn't work, then he's a lost cause. Survey his ass out. That's my way of thinking.
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I know this isn't a correct response in this day and age of the military but this cat would find my size 5.5 wife so far up his ass the water on my knee would quench his thirst..and he would forever be on shit detail until he learned...
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Push ups till the world changes direction or office hours and all kinds of extra duty
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