Posted on Oct 16, 2016
LTJG Jftoc Watch Officer
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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SFC Steve Allen
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Assign duty to soldier and have him report for counseling make sure he understands that behavior want be tolerated.
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LCpl Kris Clark
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Charged with insubordination
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SSgt Tyrone Reed
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Give him extra guard duty or blanket party
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SPC Combat Engineer
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Knocking him on his ass and a few days of KP. D&C till the cows come home. Swipe his stress card down the crack of his ass and ask for change back.
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SPC Robert Allen
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IN 68 AT FT.JACKSON A GI COMPLAINED BEHIND ME THE DI THOUGHT IT WAS ME I WAS TOLD TO TENDER THE COAL FURNACE FOR THE NIGHT I TRIED TO TELL THE DI BUT HE HAD MADE UP HIS MIND. SO HE CAME LATER WITH ABOUT 4 OTHERS AND THEY TOLD ME HOW WRONG I WAS SO AFTER WE SHOVELED THE ASHES(HIS WORDS) I LEARNED NOT TO QUESTION JUST FOLLOW ORDERS.EVEN THO I WHIPPED 3 OF THEM THEY THEN BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF ME NO E2 WITH ANY SINCE WOULD CHALLENGE THE E5.IN THE END HIS SQUAD PAYED THE PRICE ALSO BY THE WAY I BEAT THE PISS OUT OF THE DUMB ASS MAMA,S BOY
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CMSgt Dennis Lyon
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I’d light him up ya it’s in formation but you better nip this in the bud. If not who’s next. You gave him a task he is qualified to do then do it. If not report to my office with your supervisor right after this and have him explain but in the end it’s his JOB!! You aren’t tasking him with something all of the other troops have to do. Also the disrespect is a no I don’t think so and put a boot in his ASS
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PO3 John Priest
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Edited >1 y ago
Even as an "Rent a crow" E-4, I didn't put up with it, nor will I put up with it today as a veteran/civilian. My first response would be a raised eyebrow and a "Would you like to reconsider that decision there Seaman Apprentice, or would you and I like to go see our Work-center boss (Lead E-5 or E-6) about that after we're done here?" If he continues, we see the lead PO on the project and work our way up the chain, hopefully never getting beyond the Lead PO1 in the division (and I've seen more than a few that could blanch people with a glare). Hopefully that fixes it and we don't have to get the Chief or Senior Chief involved.

If he continues, then I get with my fellow E-4+ and we develop an "improvement plan" for him. Back in the early 80's, Blanket parties were not approved, but still happened, and no one involved talked about it ever. And he gets sent up the chain for further and official "action".

I make it very clear that "I'm not your buddy, I'm in charge/the lead here and I won't ask you to do anything that I wouldn't do (and most of the time I'm right along side of them doing it too). "
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CW4 Steven Bowyer
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I would give the soldier a chance to reconsider his answer and carry out the directive, while also letting him know that we would have a conversation about this before the end of the duty day to rectify his attitude. If the soldier was still non-compliant I would have the next senior NCO or soldier take charge of the formation and lead the soldier directly to the 1SG's office and we would initiate an Article 15. Do they still have CCF at major installations. CCF did wonders in correcting attitudes.
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SFC John Fourquet
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Demand he ends it now and then write it up and apply corrective training. If he continues write it up and demand UCMJ action!
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Lt Col Kevin Wyman
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Pull the individual aside, give ONE and ONLY one chance to comply. If he refuses, IMMEDIATE proceedings for Article 15 action. In addition I would question his immediate supervisor as to why this individual would consider this behavior acceptable and if this is not the first time, what actions he has taken (Letter of Counseling, Letter of Reprimand) to correct the issue. I might also investigate the immediate supervisors leadership abilities (are there other instances with other troops) he/she may need to be replaced.
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MSgt Health Services Management
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Drop him
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SSgt Daniel d'Errico
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This question has been asked about four times before. You might want to read all the answers given below, if you are new to this problem. Anything from extra duties for this dung heap, to Article 15 procceedings can be brought on this sailor/soldier/airman or marine.
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CPT Tzvi Mejer
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My reaction is very simple: Call the Sargent Major ( in charge of discipline in the battalion) Place the Private under custody for the required time to file the court martial papers by the Sargent that originally had the situation, when the private is presented to me for judgement I would give him the maximum allowed by Military Law to my rank ( Captain ) which is 21 days in the stockade. If his attitude does not adjust after this and the issue is repeated by him I would send him to be adjudicated by the Battalion Commander which may serve him a 6 month in Military prison.
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SGT William Bill Turner
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I was in the Army in the late 60's and I know what would have happened. KP and Guard duty a lot. No off post fun, pulling weeds around Company area on hands and knees and maybe an Article 15 at least. His life would be miserable in general. Don't know if you can do that now.
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PO3 Andrew Kelly
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First off you do not allow yourself to lose your cool. You inform him and his section leader you wish to speak to both of them in your office after formation is dismissed and then complete the task of handing out assignments. Once you have both in private you ask the E2 to explain himself. If there are reasons behind this behavior and the young man has not had a record of this behavior you explain that while you are sympathetic to his situation you also can not let it go and deal with the situation at your level. If he does not have an underlying reason and persists then I would pass him up to the CO for Article 15 proceedings. The section leader would also be asked to explain why this situation had been allowed to get to this point and be made to understand that this was a failure on his part in taking care of his men. At all points be professional and level headed as this will deliver to your command as a whole a confidence in your leadership.
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Cpl Jeff Ruffing
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Wow! Well, have SNM stand in the back of the formation, dismiss the rest, have SNM report to the company HQ, type up the article/ UCMJ as SNM stands by. Make a talk with your superiors as you hand the Article to them. From there, SNM stands in front of the man, receives his just dues, and you Charlie Mike
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Sgt Jordan Foster
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I would kindly step back ask who his Cpl is If I didn’t already know give the work to all of the squad leaders and be in my office the majority of the day. Address a formation at 1630 with a brand new attitude.
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CMSgt David Bridge
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Get in his face and repeat the command. Tell him it’s not a request. If he still
Doesn’t comply, I would start discipline action and get with first sgt.
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PO3 Smokey Bittler
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Take Seaman apprentice shit bag to the conex box for some counseling. Had this happen more than once in my time, work their asses into oblivion that way they are to tired to complain
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MSgt Allen Chandler
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I agree with all the comments that I’ve seen this guy is out of hand and Hass to be dealt with. The one question I have is why did they say your senior E5? If your knee five your knee five I don’t care if it’s one day or six years.
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