How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?

You give private shitbag some special attention. Because unfortunately you have no control over how they act but they have 100% control on how you are viewed. Make an example of them and smoke the daylights out of them. You earned your rank by putting in that hard work, don’t like some jackass try to make that look bad. Plus it shows that you don’t play any games so that Private jackasses friends don’t catch the same bs with you either

Backhand him across his face.

Well that’s a sure fire way to be permanently assigned that job after his squad leader showed him how to do it

"I am giving you a lawful order. This is not a polite suggestion. Should you fail to execute it, you are not just breaking a rule and being a rebel; you are committing a crime. Because of that, i have no problem seeing you prosecuted to the full extent of the military justice system, up to and including dishonorable discharge, which i will recommend to the Commander. Do not fuck with me on this again."
After dismissing everyone else except Amn Dickhead and his supervisor.

I had a similar incident. I asked him to do a simple task then went on to my other duties. Came back after a bit and he was sitting on his dead duffle bag. I ask if he got done what I ask of him. He said no and I'm not doing it. I'm giving you a Direct Lawful Order to complete the task. He replied that I can't make him do it. If your refusing to obey my order then I will put on report under the UCMJ. Before I could do it he ran to the 1st SGT and don't know what was said and I explained to the 1st SGT but the 1st SGT sided with him. I went to personnel and submitted my paper work for retirement. I wasn't going to deal with these snot nose kids still tied to their moms apron strings, I'm done.

I had this very thing happen. A 2nd class petty officer informed me that he was enrolled in school and would not stand his watch, I simply said, you will stand your watch as Assistant Squadron Duty Officer as assigned and relieve your shipmate on time or be placed on report. At 0130, I received a call from the on duty watch stranded informing me that he had not been relieved. I instructed him to call the super and make a duty log entry. 0630 the following morning I contacted the senior section leader who happened to be his workcenter supervisor, I advised him of the situation and that it was my intent to write him up for failure to follow a lawful order, failure to maintain a valid recall number. This AE2 was taken to captains mast and told the Commanding Officer that he had informed me that he was not going to stand the watch due to his off duty school schedule. The C.O then advised him of the punishment he decided to implement for the violation of the UCMJ, it was as severe as regulations allowed as the sailor was a E5. (AE2) and as such had shown a complete disregard for good order and discipline as well as conduct unbecoming a Petty Officer. This poor excuse of a NCO decided he wanted a court martial and according to regulations, his wish was granted, it ended his career. There is no room for malcontents in any branch of the armed forces, and no place for leadership that tolerates it. As leaders, officers or NCO's it is our duty to maintain good order and discipline and if the service member fails to change, well then it is our duty to help them find the door, their service is not needed. Just a true fact and thought

We are looking at a Field Grade Article 15.

You tell him to stand fast! not to move, go ahead and hand out the rest of the jobs,
Take him to the side for a few min and talk to him or her. at this point I would need more information, , I would first need to know is he normally like this?
is this, or is this not his normal behavior?
if it not his normal behavior , I would talk to him to find out what is going on in his personal life.
did someone just die in his family?
is his wife having a AFFAIR?
His KID sick?
ETC
if this kid is just a normal dirt bag , I would have a very special JOB line up for him, if he refuse to do the normal job I asked.
there always cleaning of the shit tanks needing done.
there are those jobs are just waiting for a kid like him.

then of course there your Standard Counseling,
when Counseling a jJunior Member always have a witness with you when you are Counseling.
you know the drill, you start with the verbal,
then go to written page 7 documentation, showing he been counseled, depending on the service hit them with that Captain Mast or Artical 15 it usually Straightens them right out, nothing like hitting them in the pocket book to make them think twice .

first id figure out the most sorriest job to be done tell the platoon that that will be there job for next three days but I will walk out the door and let them decide if they want to do it or they going to take care of the problem of this E2 and he do what he was told or they will be doing the shit job

1. What the fuck is a senior E-5?
2. If this really happened, start the necessary activities that get him out. That’s what he wants, clearly.

This a simple answer. You give him the worse assignment. Then you ask him to remain after formation. This is a teachable moment for him. Remember some people want to be in charge but do not know how to do it. If he is teachable then you get him on the program. Remember when you know who you are barking dogs do not bother you. And you always have Tops to bag you up!

Article 15 for insubordination.

Well, my first impression as a mother is to slap the holy hell out of the little snotbag. But. Hmm. I'm pretty sure that's the wrong answer. And, I finished out as an A1C, (got out when pregnant, back in the later 1980s) so I didn't take NCO leadership classes. And, besides, Lol. I seem to have a little bit of a temper. Which I DO control pretty well. Mostly. The correct answer is that you take the little darling and his supervisor to a quiet place or make the place you are at more private by sending everyone else away. You inform the little darling that this is not his Mama's house, nor is it a democracy. He has not been promoted to General, either. How he believes this after Basic Training, is anyone else's guess. Usually those problems are taken care of there. You can point out to your insubordinate little trooper that he has broken military law, and is behaving in a manner unbecoming, as well as having terrible military bearing. And, gee, isn't it just TOO BAD that he signed that enlistment contract, NOT UNDER DURESS, therefore he has already agreed to follow all lawful orders, and this is one of them. Should he choose at this point to be difficult and not obey the order, there will be consequences. Serious consequences. It reflects poorly on the supervisor, and he will be dragged down with the little snotbag. (You probably shouldn't CALL HIM a little snotbag to his face. That's for later on.) You have the right to punish him for insubordination, and perhaps you should, by writing paperwork, and I'm sure the supervisor will be happy to find some unpleasant little chores for him to do, also.

As a Midshipman at USNA in the 60's, there was a Plebe who had done something wrong and was stopped by the Midshipman Officer of the Watch (MOOW). The MOOW was a senior nearing graduation. They (the Plebe, the MOOW, and the MOOW's orderly, another Plebe MOD) were all wearing Tropical White Long uniform. They all wore shoulder boards. The MOOW began chewing out the Plebe something fierce while the plebe stood rigidly at attention in a brace. Finally, the Plebe reached over to the MOOW, quickly unsnapped, removed and held the MOOW's shoulder board to his head like a telephone and shouted into it "Beam me up Scotty, it's getting hot down here!".

You must be in one hell of a piss poor unit , in my day (age showing over 60) the other privates standing on either side of him would take care of him for his behavior , if you pissed off a NCO and you were a private and did it in formation you were going to get a complete ass rearrangement , no one wanted the kind of heat that would result from not only this NCO but every other one in the unit.
Heaven help this fuck wad if this was an active combat forward area , he might not make it out with all that he entered with if you get the drift. Has the military become such Pussies this would ever happen , if so lord save us when the next load hits the fan ..... Glad i'm not you , one of my troops did that , the MP's would hall his ass to the stockade wile formation was still on so the other troops could see , if the CO was feeling extra kind that day the private would get sent to "Retraining Platoon " at the fort stockade ... think "BUDS" hell week , but no swimming for 90 days instead of just confinement and dishonorably discharge.

Been there done that . Flat out this type of behavior tends to be very contagious if not zeroed out at light speed . I joined when Ford was president and then got Mr. Jimmy Carter's fun rein soon after , military moral and discipline was a very strange animal during those years . There were officers and NCO's who were just marking time to retire and those who were all gung ho and the one's who knew their jobs and did them to the very best of their ability's without being screaming mimi's or overly harsh in their bearing . That being said I was lucky for the most part having true professionals to learn from ( Still had some of the others as well but not many ) . One thing I learned was that yelling and screaming in front of the platoon at an individual tended to have a negative effect on the troops ( Except for when I was a D.I. ) BUT ordering them to stand fast while dismissing the remainder of them to their duties was something that the men who had been serving under me understood was not something that you wanted to have happen . Depending on how loud and or vociferous the troop was while " debating " my orders set the manner to which I proceeded with correcting said troop's reminder of the fact that they were in the military and subject to not only the UCMJ but to the platoon / company and battalion he was serving in . I'd keep said troop cooling his heels while I had a discussion with his squad leader ( as his squad leader he would have more recent background info about him than I would ) after that I would proceed with the troopers attitude adjustment . It was always made very clear to them that there was NO place for any action other then compliance with lawful orders ....At this point in time things could go " MANY " different directions as people do tend to act different , if said troop was amenable to moderate discipline and correction of his negative attitude then things were kept to the minimum necessary . However I did have some who required harsher means of correction ( I always regretted having to up the ante as I felt it reflected on my leadership skills in a negative manner , personally as well as militarily ) . I had two who required artical 15's to get the message across , both times I had to have the LONG discussion with Top and the Co. commander ( Never fun ) ! I reckon that the point I'm trying to make here after being so long winded is that this type of behavior MUST be nipped in the bud immediately as well as taking the time reflect on how you personally could have done things better to avoid this from even happening in the first place . Simply reacting without thought will almost always lead to more trouble down the line in my experience . I've never understood how people who " JOIN " the military can feel they don't have to follow lawful orders if they're not in the mood , and or how they got through boot camp and AIT without this attitude being dealt with before they ever reached their permanent unit .

I don't know the gravity of the situation. I would start with counseling telling service member and give extra duty. If this continue, demotion is sure. Tell him if you want to serve well, you don't want a black mark in your record because it will harm your service. Sometimes, strong will person if get directed to a right direction they can excel well.

Not very well.

Of course that was back in the "Old Corps"! Just the same, you do what you have to do, to get the job done!

I can only say that, in the Marines, that kind of shit is often times taken care of by that individual's barracks mates! I remember an instance where we were unloading the trucks after a 30 day trip to the field and one of my men was slacking off. I was in no mood for his shit and offered to take him out behind the Comm. shack. Never had any more problems with that individual!