Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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Introduce him to my favorite NCO and Officer (SGM Miranda and Major Rights) they tend to have a sobering reaction to those questioning little tykes. Be sure to play the song by Archie Bell and the Drells....The tighten-up!!!!!
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In the 82nd as an E5,I would have put him in the leaning rest until he ETSed
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Crush it publicly and forever. If you have people to spare put someone else on the mission, change to pts and smoke him all day. Let the rest of the unit see you crush him. They should all day, "there but by the grace of God, go I."
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Tell him that out of respect for a 1st Lieutenant, and the NCO that instructed him to perform the task he will compmply or he will suffer disciplinary action, not shy of Article 15.
1st LtWJPieczara
1st LtWJPieczara
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Ok... their is no more close door counselling so thats out the way...complete what your doing that will give you time to process what just happen . As a NCO you should know your solders who is a dirt bag and who is squared away ,so you can ask him what the problem is directly after you dismissed your formation, he does not need an audience. That will take you down to option call the chaplain or chapter 13 .
I using chapter 13 because if theirs nothing Emotionally wrong with him ( wife had an affair) or something he just an a#$ hole and doesn't deserve to be their and nothing you do will change that.
I using chapter 13 because if theirs nothing Emotionally wrong with him ( wife had an affair) or something he just an a#$ hole and doesn't deserve to be their and nothing you do will change that.
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Sadly it all depends on the race and/or sex of the service member .......... It also depends on branch of service too ....... My career is in jeopardy if I make a mistake here ........ .a lot of these situation are long in the making with a lot of advice from sea/barracks lawyers .....
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COL Hugh Stirts
I have to disagree in one aspect CPO Malay. None of that scenario depends on race/sex/education/background. The individual is a soldier, and as such, should certainly face punishment. Thanks for your service Joseph
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First off. Stop what I am doing and all my focus is on this individual. Order him to do this task and assign another task as well. Document the issue and look for trends. Back in my day he would be assigned some extra curricular activities they call hazing today.
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1st I would call everyone to attention & advise PFC Name & team leader to stand fast and everyone else continue on with there assigned work details. Then I would march them both to the 1SG's office & have PFC Name wait outside while T/leader & I have a discussion with the 1st shirt (I would 1st find out if I can rep;ace him( I would explain why). He then would to go back to his work detail. Now I would bring in PFC Name (dress him down good) & then see if I can get him a Company article 15.
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