Posted on Oct 16, 2016
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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SSG Shawn Mcfadden
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GET IN THAT PUNKS FACE and tell the little turd, life as he knows it has just ended.
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SP5 Richard Welch
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Lock their heals, make them stand fast, dismiss all other's. Then spend the day with my jump boot up their ass making them miserable.
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SrA Operations Management
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Isn’t that an Article 91 violation?
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SGT Ameri Corps Member
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I just noticed the juvenile marks on the Marines hands in the picture. Wonder what brought on this altercation?
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PO2 Tom Kalbacher
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This is an easy fix , I saw they got five nights of extra duty in the engine or boiler room chipping paint with a knuckle buster and it always changed the attitude
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SFC James Liedtka
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The military is a war machine. The correct response is a punch in the mouth. It will also correct anyone else in the platoon thinking of being a smart ass.
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AA Michel Erlandsen
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As we all know there are three sides to a story, and a story inside a story. I'm a Vietnam vet and been in the Navy for 3 years and Air Force for 20 yrs. I've seen so much conflict between high ranks and lower ranks. More than enough lowest rank is always at fault. Its proof right here in this blog. All these higher ranks that are responding to this question immediately are on the E5 side. First of all , being CALMLY too one person may not be calmly to others. How did the E5 calmly speak to his troops. Was he calmly saying " Hey, do you think your bright enough to do this task"? Or was he very diplomatic when he asked this young troop to do this task. The E2 also could be a spoiled little brat.
I have seen so many E4 and above just let their ranks get to their head. It's like giving a MONkEY A LOADED GUN.
There was a CWO I knew who hated enlisted personnel, thought every one of them were stupid and didn't know their jobs, and talked down to them. He has been spoken to by other higher ranking officers to lighten up on he enlisted, but since he was an officer he didn't have to. This is just one example, of so many I've seen. On the other hand Ive' seen a lot of PUNK ASS Kids that are just out of control, and there is no discipline that well straighten them out.
If this E2 is being a Punk, I agree , he should be pulled out of formation and perhaps talk to him to see whats bothering him and why he reacts this way. If getting no place with him then serious discipline actions need to be taken
According to this E5 question, it sounds to me that nothing happened (no discipline acct-ion} to the E2 because the E5 may not of been at his best behavior also. I say this is because he's asking this question to see how many people will agree with him, and nobody knows the real story. Also the picture shows that this E5 is not calm and he is amplifying his authority.
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1SG James Matthews
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Had this happen once at Ft. Hood. Ever looked at a soldier after he dug a 6x6 and planted a paper he wrote stating "I am a member of the United States Army and will follow all orders my superiors give me. Fill it up and then tell him Dig it up --I think you mispelled a word.
Never had any more backtalk in formation.
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AA Michel Erlandsen
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As we all know there are three sides to a story, and a story inside a story. I'm a Vietnam vet and been in the Navy for 3 years and Air Force for 20 yrs. I've seen so much conflict between high ranks and lower ranks. More than enough lowest rank is always at fault. Its proof right here in this blog. All these higher ranks that are responding to this question immediately are on the E5 side. First of all , being CALMLY too one person may not be calmly to others. How did the E5 calmly speak to his troops. Was he calmly saying " Hey, do you think your bright enough to do this task"? Or was he very diplomatic when he asked this young troop to do this task. The E2 also could be a spoiled little brat.
I have seen so many E4 and above just let their ranks get to their head. It's like giving a MONkEY A LOADED GUN.
There was a CWO I knew who hated enlisted personnel, thought every one of them were stupid and didn't know their jobs, and talked down to them. He has been spoken to by other higher ranking officers to lighten up on he enlisted, but since he was an officer he didn't have to. This is just one example, of so many I've seen. On the other hand Ive' seen a lot of PUNK ASS Kids that are just out of control, and there is no discipline that well straighten them out.
If this E2 is being a Punk, I agree , he should be pulled out of formation and perhaps talk to him to see whats bothering him and why he reacts this way. If getting no place with him then serious discipline actions need to be taken
According to this E5 question, it sounds to me that nothing happened (no discipline acct-ion} to the E2 because the E5 may not of been at his best behavior also. I say this is because he's asking this question to see how many people will agree with him, and nobody knows the real story. Also the picture shows that this E5 is not calm and he is amplifying his authority.
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SCPO Rev. Dr. Thomas Peavy
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In the Navy this would be a Seaman, Fireman, Airman, Construction or Hospital "Apprentice" rank E-2. The E-5 would be a Petty Officer 2nd class. Not many or very few formations are held where an E-5 would be the Senior Rank but their work center Petty Officer would likely be an the E-5 or E-6 rank. Should this happen, the response needs to be direct and instructive to all present. The junior rank is instructed (Told) that they will not talk in formation without permission. That they have been given a lawful assignment and it is to be followed. There will be no discussion of this order. If you refuse to follow a lawful directive, you will be placed on report. Hold anything else you may say until you meet with me and Chief Petty Officer ---- after you are dismissed. It is that clear ----- Apprentice? The ass chewing and a little "extra military instruction" takes place with the Chief present.
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