How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?

After the remark is made ,oh ok you stand right there once formation has been released.
This soldier would be my shadow until I got tired of it three weeks a month two months what ever it took.
I would give it 2/3 weeks never Speaking a word of what they did but now permanently reassigned to me and my duties until further notice. When I was ready we would have a conversation about what had a occurred that morning.
Look they do not want to follow you around all day having them report to you. It's the last thing they want it obvious they have an issue with you or authority or something they have just broken the secret understanding do what I order you to do without hesitation. If they can not follow well you get the drift.

I would give it a few good weeks and then sit with them and get to the bottom of why they thought that was a good maneuver that morning. I am sure by now they wished they didn't even know how to talk that morning.

They would be so ready to get back to a normal duty day without you attached to it.
I would still have them with me for an extended time even after I felt we had corrected this issue, All meals extra duty , extra PT.
I would be right there all day everyday until I was sure this was fixed and once we both now back to a normal duty day I can see what we have done together.
Hopefully for my effort I have made a better soldier a better person maybe even now they know they are worth the effort that is the job of a NCO .

You can punish any time A15 all day long it does not solve a thing and should be your very very last resort with a E3 and below.
But getting someone to look at the days duties as a privilege is what your after. It's called Service and that means sometimes helping those who volunteer find their way and sometimes that requires something different than an antiquated punishment system that is thrown down way to soon and often if you make it to SGT do your job.
Everyone has a Pen !

As a former platoon sergeant of many years I would have slugged a son of a bitch in the stomach if it can't take that shouldn't be there

I think you mean PVT (E1) Smart Mouth who will find himself short 7 days pay at the end of the month and very busy after normal duty hours for the next 14 days. If there was something going on that I was unaware of my 1SG will let me know so "WE" can get him whatever assistance needed while he serves his punishment. But those junior leaders represent me and they will not be disrespected.

You make them into an E-1 with your commander’s help... that should do the trick.

It would never happen and didn’t in 21 years.

Up the chain of command

This is a situation that demands low fragmentation damage. PLT SGT." SQD LDR remove the PVT from the formation and escort him to the Orderly Room I will be right behind you." Pass out the rest of the jobs and information. Move to the Orderly Room. Discuss it with SQD LDR and Soldier, tell both what you think should be done for the violation My recommendation would be UCMJ, Ask the SQD LDR what their Recommendations are, Move forward to paperwork if needed. (Counseling as a minimum) Never have this kind of chat without counseling Paper work good or bad. Go Back to work. If you made it through BCT. You know better than that type of conduct. Just my thoughts.

LMAO...…"Corner Patrol". A friend of mine used this with some of his more "stubborn" cases. He would place the offender in a corner, facing inward. Their choices were to watch the corner or report to the Master At Arms. No movement or talking They were not required to stand at attention, but they were to remain standing. He would place a sign next to them with the words, "For information regarding this individual contact ********** Do not speak to or approach." He would simply tell them "When you're ready to act like a useful person, let me know." He would walk by once an hour and ask them if they were ready yet. It seldom took very long. Only one time did an Officer ever inquire about it. After that they were very careful to "Not see" the few times he used this approach.

Well you have three options here.

The FIRST thing i would do regardless of the the other three are push ups as an on the spot correction. And if he refused to do that I would immediately go to option number 2.

Option 1. smoke session, after hours.

Option 2. Formal counseling, and smoke session after hours.

Option 3. Article 15 disrespect to an NCO, and Violation of a lawful order (1 count for refusing the assignment, 2 if he refused the push ups).

I would also counsel the soldier informally, to see where he stands. If he is flippant in the counseling session I would make it a formal counseling session. I would also immediately log the insubordination in a log book (you will need this later).

There are three things that could be happening here:

1. The Soldier is not used to Garrison life, because he just came off AIT, and he may be a little burnt out. This happens, it happened tome in the Navy my A School was 9 months long, then i had 10 weeks of fligth crew training. It took me about 6 months to relax from the training environment, which was very hard on me, because I had A LOT of issues when i first joined the Navy.

2. He is feeling out the waters, trying to see if he can walk all over you, and he may not be fully aware of what is going to happen to him. He may not understand that he has violated the UCMJ, and what those punishments can be. That is why I would counsel him informally. Explain to him that an Article 15 can result in confinement up to 30 days, loss of rank, and a fine of half his pay for 6 months. And that further disobedience can lead to a Bad Conduct Discharge, and that this is his first strike in that regard.

3. He may have decided Army life is not for him, and as such he may be looking to get discharged. He may be a barracks lawyer, and think he is going to get off with an administrative separation and an other than honorable. I would NOT let this happen. He signed the papers, he asked to be there, and now he wants to go home? I would send him home with a Big Chicken Dinner.

I would check with legal, i am not sure exactly what has to happen but i think two or more article 15's in the space of 6 months can be used as a BCD. I would definitely document everything disrespect, refusal to obey, and lack of performance; this is going to be very important too, as there is a malingering charge in the last article of the UCMJ. And then I would article 15 him the two times, and then on his third infraction and I would court martial him, and give him the BCD.

How do you graduate from BCT/AIT lacking in military bearing? Remedial training is required, ASAP.

I miss the days when this kind of behavior occurred, you would "invite" the young misguided soul to the rear of the nearest structure and practice your heavy bag skills (it wasn't personal, just business). Unfortunately we have become a kinder and gentler military, and we don't receive the support from the person who has the NJP authority when they say, that the young malifactor should get a second,third, fourth and so on chance. The military had become a social experiment and I just don't know how we as professional (Soldiers, Marines, Airmen, Sailors) can correct that.

OMG!!! I would go postal, He would be on every shit detail I could find and hope he give me a reason to write him up, he would never see E-3 and dread the day he disrespected me

I give him a counselling and remind him that failure to follow lawful orders will result in outprocessing. I give his tasks for the WEEK to his teammates and force him to shadow them as they do both their own job AND his! His persiective will change faster than he can say "yes Sergeant"!

On spot correction or mass punishment While the E-2 is Infront of the formation. The old way!

As a matter of fact----step back in time to 1969. The military started pushing the all volunteer force coming soon. I was E-5 and crew chief on mid shift one night. We had an IG Inspection coming through in the morning. At 4:00 am I went to the break room where an E-2 was on break. He was sleeping. Not authorized activity. I told him to get up and buff the hallways for the Inspection coming through in the morning. He refused. I could not make him get up and buff the hallways. I put him on report expecting him to at least receive an Article 15. Three days later we were on day shift. The Commander called us both into his office. The Commander slapped the kid on the wrist and dismissed us. As we were leaving he said, "Sgt. Self, stand back!" I returned to his desk and he chewed me out. Told me if we are to get these young people to reenlist we were going to have to ease up on them. Standing before his desk, I made the decision to get out at the end of my next enlistment. And I did. I wonder if the commander got the negative attitude to reenlist and which one of us he would rather have had.

Well, still trying to wrap my mind around this. Maybe, just maybe, I should check with my NCOIC. This issue should absolutely be handled swiftly, and in the open. If I was in the E5 position, well not sure that's allowed now days, but I can say this skitter wing would be motivated.

I would fall on the ground laughing.The whole platoon would see me laughing but after catching my breath I would say"let's talk".I would take him somewhere and see if he wanted a military career or he wanted trouble. I would gladly help him either way.That being said I never had that problem during my fifteen years as a NCO.

I would pull the E2 aside after formation with a witness to the conversation and tell the E2 either he does as ordered or face an Article 15 at the CO's discretion for the first offense and if he wants to repeat his continue with his insubordination then face a Courts Martial for the second offense after my report goes to the CO. Either way he will be an example of what not to do when he ordered to carry out an assignment.

I would pull the E2 aside after formation and tell him either do what you are ordered to do, or face and article 15 for the first time and if repeated then go for charge of insubordination and courts martial after forwarding my report to my Commanding Officer. Either way he will be an example of what not to do when given orders to do work.

Tell him to report to your office, write him up for disrespect and make him a PVT. This kinder and gentler Army makes it hard to discipline Soldiers, your only course of action is to take his money and if it keeps going his career.