I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?

Another idiot no never go to battle with. How do u get into the military/

PO2 Joseph Fast - It's easier to beat one's chest and talk about "back in the day" then it is to actually man up and take care of one's Sailors or Soldiers. They're high on their own false memories of who they used to be - kind of like Al Bundy.

SPC (Join to see) - Men go to war..... This woman isn't going to war..... JFC, are all of you brain dead? Did you even understand the issue? There is downtime eventually. People cannot operate on 3 hours of sleep a day forever. That is how you lose good people who are good at their job. I understand only getting 3 hours of sleep WHEN IT MAKES SENSE! I do not understand it just because someone in charge doesn't understand your position and didn't factor your schedule into the mix. I would like to say "We need to make up a Company or what ever it takes to put all of you low IQ idiots in one place." But let's be honest, there are already many.

PO2 Joseph Fast - HEY u IDIOT! If she is in the military by DEFINITION she could be sent to war. Or did u yourself think that I am in an MOS that will keep me from war so that u personally think that u will never be in a war zone.

IF that is what u think then u better change you're last name from Fast to EXTREMELY SLOW.
In the State I live in I heard a sister crying about her brother coming home dead. Which is understandable. What the bitch said tho and was her talking point was. He NEVER signed up for this. Well SNOWFLAKE when u raise your right hand to get into the military u BETTER take every single word of it to heart cause that is going to be what u are held to. And if u disagree with any part of it u better walk out right then and there.
HOW do no brain morons like u get into the military.

SPC (Join to see) - So... because she could be sent to war, we should screw her over with bad leadership. Makes sense to me.

No, stationed in Ft Bliss (returning from Juarez as stated, please read) I was in Juarez drinking (heavily) the hours prior. Wasn't a habit, but this was the only time I'd went out drinking that heavily Sunday-Thursday). No, I did not stop drinking 8 hours prior, an hour prior at best. Yes, I showed up for duty completely inebriated, but I showed up. Why no Art 15? I was E-2/E-3 at the time. My 1SGT was a combat patch Viet Nam infantry vet. Most of my NCO's were old school complaining about how the 'old Army' had passed and you used to need a DUI and an arrest for fighting under your belt to make E-6. Still drunk at morning formation wasn't an oddity, that was the don't ask. don't tell in my unit. So long as you did your job and didn't get caught with pot, it was good to go. I excelled at my job and went at every day with a drive and purpose. Hell, the 31M in my battery was a raging alcoholic. Broke both arms jumping out a 2nd story window drunk. No Art 15. The Captain offered him a case of German beer if he got his commo shots in first to Battalion on a NATO observed field op. That guy brought booze to the field and worked in the Engagement Control Station drunk more than once. Nothing was said because he excelled at his job. Work hard, play hard. Wasn't unheard of for tankers and air defense guys to get into bar brawls.

In 25 years you'll be telling new guys how your Army wasn't/isn't their Army. Things change including what individual units accept at the time.

My original point in my response was, you are in the military, doesn't matter how you feel about things or how fair it seems, meet the expectation. Its what we sign up for. Whining about how much sleep you think you should be getting is what it is, whining. I once went 5 days with a total of 4 hours of sleep in the field and I'm better for it. Wasn't SEAL Hell week, but things needed done and I rose to the need. Wasn't happy at the time, but I got through it and refused to be the weak link. A med MOS complaining about not getting the amount of sleep at the appointed time they deem adequate gets no sympathy from me.

Scrolling through this thread there seems to be a common denominator, you, SSGT Baptist, are the only one taking sides with the OP, even calling a senior enlisted a jerk and toxic. Telling E-8's what their job is. If you are the odd man out, realize you are on the wrong side. This is what happens when civilian mindsets infiltrate the military. Whoa is me. Even a scrawny E-2 tanker who struggled to make PT test minimums is telling the OP to suck it up. Maybe you should as well.

Best of luck with E-7. Yer gonna need it.

SPC Todd Everetts - Looking through this thread, I've only found 1 leader. Everyone else has their head shoved so far up their rear end they can't even look at context/time frame. Most people comment about something completely unrelated to what was her problem years ago and other didn't even figure she was a she. I found only one person who was willing to listen to what was typed up and act like a leader. SSGT Baptist.

Higher ranking individuals are wrong all the time. It probably comes with the low average intelligence that the military attracts. The unwillingness to use logical reasoning or have critical thinking capabilities. When you find one who does, you should listen. They were always the best mentors I ever had. Those with those skills improved the commands not only in skill and performance of those serving, but also in morale. Funny how the worst leaders I ever had who failed constantly were the worst when it came to morale and the smartest leaders who were the best at their job increased morale. It's almost like idiots who don't know shit are the first to lower morale and intelligent leaders understand the importance of it.

One day I hope all of you experience the total collapse and failure of your chain of command to look out for you simply because it's too much of an inconvenience to listen and come up with a VERY EASY to come up with solution. It's just too easy to say the soldier who has a problem, is the problem. You all remind me of leftist progressives who can't tell the difference between cause/effect and get them backwards. The soldier has a problem? That must mean she is a problem! No, she has a problem BECAUSE there is a problem. Well had. This was years ago.

Lets back up. Only 5 people show up for PT formation and the 1st Sgt puts his foot down, which he should have. AND he gives two options for PT. Spc Davis is complaining that she'd 'only' get a few hours of sleep between getting off work and reporting for PT. One person who responded you call a 'leader' and the rest you try to insult a perceived lack of intelligence because you don't agree with their answer. One, out of currently 692 respondents. While I don't have the facts in front of me I feel relatively safe in saying those 690 respondents beside myself represents literally thousands of years of military service. Yet we are all ignorant and indicative of the 'low average intelligence the military attracts', of which you appear to be one. SPC Davis IS being led, she just doesn't like the answer and you seem to not like it either. In case you've forgotten PO2 Fast, you are military property. up to and including the non active status of your contract you signed and can be called back on a whim.

Briefly, since when does 'she was a she' come into play> In this day and age treating a female differently because she is a female amounts to gender discrimination. Feminism has destroyed any semblance of chivalry or favor a woman used to (and should) enjoy. While I do agree with what I read into your statement as her being female, it is completely irrelevant and an insult in todays military. THAT Sir is a leftist progressive accomplished goal, go thank them. Women have gone into Ranger school, This is a character issue.

We are in agreement there is a problem, but because the OP is a female and only getting a few hours sleep before PT is NOT the problem, its her attitude. I also agree that because there is a problem it is not always the soldier who is at fault. HOWEVER, that does NOT matter in the military. You do what you are told, when you are told to do it. End of discussion. If you do not like that policy, military life is not for you and perhaps you should request some sort of discharge or get yourself booted out.

My personal intelligence/test scores allowed me to gain entrance into any MOS any service had available at the time of my enlistment. My personal experience during my one hitch was into a newly activated unit that was wrought with misgivings and more time in the field than 10th Mountain Division. Mission preparedness. To be quite honest, with attitudes like yours we'd all be speaking German if your generation were called to do what was necessary 80 years ago. While I do not know you, your response sounds like today's 'snowflake' in every sense. If your attitude is indicative of those serving in today's active military, I truly fear for this countries safety and future.

Embrace the suck. be the best soldier/sailor/marine/airman you can be. Do more that what is expected of you and get the honorable discharge on your DD-214. Then you can get out, start your own business and deal with the next generation of snowflakes who don't agree with YOUR policies and tell you you are the problem with their desires and work ethic, regardless of what the mission requires of them.

I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors.

Sir, I think if his leadership had to show up at 0000 to PT him at the end of his shift, they would quickly find that solution or a similar one.