Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
Company Commander
Physical Training
Army Regulations
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Edited 6 y ago
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What WOW you have it Made....
Hopefully you don't get deployed you can say goodbye to sleep....
Hopefully you don't get deployed you can say goodbye to sleep....
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There is a reason the 1SG wants you there at zero dark thirty. Take it as a compliment. While there is nothing wrong with asking your PLT SGT to ask for reconsideration, I wouldn't expect much change. Don't hesitate to ask, everyone is an adult and is entitled to speak on how they feel, not that all with care on your feelings but that is okay. As a team, we need to be able to better understand one another and learn to deal with each other on a professional level. Keeping quiet can makes things worse for yourself and morale; things that need to be avoided as some may walk, leaving the team that much smaller.
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Get a nap in the after PT and before your 1600 shift. If you’re worried about this just wait until you Get deployed or hit civilian life. You do what’s needed, no questions asked. Embrace the suck and move on.
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What the sh*t? There were many times I’d PT still very drunk and running only on 2-3 hours of sleep. One time I forgot I filled my camel pack with Vodka and I had to do a 3 mile run dried up with no water. Suck it up. You’re not in a position to be asked to do thongs that others haven’t been able to do before you.
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The way you resolve this issue effectively and professionally is show up for PT @ 0530 as this is part of your duty. Ask yourself what's going to happen, not if but when you hit the combat zone? It is your duty as an American Soldier to maintain yourself, be technically and tactically proficient in all tasks. This shouldn't even be a topic of conversation from a Professional Soldier.
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So, let me sum it up professionally -- SUCK IT UP, Specialist. Think four hours of sleep disqualifies you for doing your duty in a combat zone or during a deployment.
First eight months I was in the Air Force, I was sent from one Army post to another. Didn't disqualify me from falling in at a company formation or falling out for PT. Didn't gripe either when the first sergeant issued tooth brushes to clean the dirt out of the cracks in the Linoleum.
Are you in the Army or not?
First eight months I was in the Air Force, I was sent from one Army post to another. Didn't disqualify me from falling in at a company formation or falling out for PT. Didn't gripe either when the first sergeant issued tooth brushes to clean the dirt out of the cracks in the Linoleum.
Are you in the Army or not?
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I remember when I first got into Iraq as a Marine Corps infantryman, I got about 4 hours of interrupted sleep each day for about the first month, an hour or so here and an hour or so there.
Leading up to my deployments, it was not unusual to be sleep deprived during training. Suck it up. If you can't perform under these conditions, then you don't deserve to be in the military. You're not doing your part if you expect the rules to be changed because you're tired. This isn't the civilian world, and if you wish it were, maybe you shouldn't have joined in the first place.
Leading up to my deployments, it was not unusual to be sleep deprived during training. Suck it up. If you can't perform under these conditions, then you don't deserve to be in the military. You're not doing your part if you expect the rules to be changed because you're tired. This isn't the civilian world, and if you wish it were, maybe you shouldn't have joined in the first place.
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Segmented sleep, where you sleep for 4 hours, stay up for around 2 hours, then go to sleep for another 4, is supposedly a better way to sleep.
You should have time for 4 hours of sleep before pt, then take 4 hours of sleep after, and you could be better off.
You should have time for 4 hours of sleep before pt, then take 4 hours of sleep after, and you could be better off.
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As a Junior Enlisted you are stuck Period. Follow orders ! If it interferes with Hospital duties ask the Hospital admin to request the 1st Sgt make an allowance. I suggest you do as you are told, bucking the system doesn't work .
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Here's the solution. Go to PT, go home, shower, and go back to bed. If you can talk your command into a 0800 PT time then more power to you, but in the end you've got from the end of PT till 1600 to sleep and get ready for work. Welcome to the Army.
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You are whining. The army needs its personnel to be in good physical and mental condition. In today's military, we have a huge amount of humans that are overweight. Most of our armed forces are in poor shape even if not overweight. You should hug and kiss your first sergeant and be thankful he or she cares about your health.
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Do not taking short cuts t get around the P.T cause it too is sign when the going gets tough, you would shortcut inthe battle ground, or anywhere you are, Taking the long way around is for your own conditioning and safety and it prepares you mentally to not turn and run if you are pinned down somewhere.
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You go and do PT on only 4-5 hours sleep. That's what you do. After PT you can go back to sleep. Look Yes it Sucks the Big Green Weenie is doing you without the courtesy of a reach around but you still have plenty of down time to get more sleep after PT. It's just a new routine you will have to get used to unless you can get your Company XO or CO to give you a pass but I do not see that happening since they would have to do that for your entire section and that would be unfair to everyone else in the Company that didn't get a pass. So it's just one of those things where you say to your self Welcome to the Army lol...
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Wow, just wow. The military has sure changed.
Sign your name, take the oath, do what you are told.
You may get an order one day that Could lead to your death. That is the job. Go to PT and quit whining.
Sign your name, take the oath, do what you are told.
You may get an order one day that Could lead to your death. That is the job. Go to PT and quit whining.
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These new soldiers whine about everything. Our force is becoming weaker and weaker. You get 5 hours of sleep before PT come back shower and you still have 9-10 hours before you have to be at work. What’s the problem?!
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You're getting 4 to 5 hours of sleep and you're worried about PT? You obviously have no idea what is in store being a parent and having a job. I am absolutely ashamed at the military for promoting you above me because you do not belong in the military. Soup sandwich doesn't even describe you. Blue falcon does describe you. What the fuck are you in the military for? For fucks sake, why the fuck did you enlist?
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