Posted on Jun 12, 2019
SPC(P) Medical Laboratory Specialist
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.

However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.

I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.

As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.

How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
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CSM Patrick Durr
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Forever, Medical and other shift type MOS's have had issues with maintaining high APFT scores. It's been a challenge for Command teams to ensure companies get the opportunity to do organized athletics. clearly you have at least one senior NCO that can advocate for you to the command team. He or she is in the same boat. With the New challenging Physical fitness test in place, and unit stats being everything, I'm sure the NEW command teams intentions are pure. Soldiers inclinations, unfortunately, are to avoid PT rather that do it in their off time. CDR/1SG's have to answer to higher when scores are low, or soldiers fail. if an Organized program isn't implemented and enforced, they fail. By regulation, a program must exist. It can't be: Soldiers will do PT on their own. You work an 8 hour shift, an hour at each end for personal hygiene, transportation, etc. That gives you 14 hours to do what else you please. I spent 32 in and in charge of Infantry Units. I'd have loved that luxury.
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1SG Nelson Alequin
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The military is not for everyone. If you can't hang with 4 to 5 hours, wait until you go three dats with none while deployed. Dont make your life miserable as well as those around you. Sounds like the candle burnt out and the time to focus on burning a different one has arrived.
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SPC Deborah Omsby Dixon
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One answer: follow orders and suck it up. Period.
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COL David S.
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Bring it up with your platoon sergeant. In the meantime, suck it up!
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Sgt Gerald Smith
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You sound exactly like you are whining. You should have no problem functioning for PT for an hour or two and then if you want to go back to sleep you can. Four to five hours of sleep is a luxury to a lot of people and most function on that amount on a regular bases. PT is part of military life if you don't like it, when your time is up get out and you won't have to worry about mandatory PT sessions.
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SSG(P) Squad Leader
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Regulations support your First Sergeant. Pt is only one of 24 hours in a day. Put on your big boy pants and suck it up, buttercup.
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As you stated you have two options to report to formation. One at 0530 or the other at 1600. So why couldn't you report to the 1600 formation then go to work? Even if you had to get up at 0515, put on a PT uniform and stand in a 0530 formation. You still have logged roughly four hours of sleep. Stand in the formation for 15 minutes, then go back to bed.
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SCPO Ken Badoian
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What a crock, it seems like a blizzard with a lot of snowflakes. Get a life,but of course you will never see combat RIGHT, try days w/o much sleep,humping 60-80 # up and down whatever, MRE's and little water - also seems like a breakdown in the chain. The policy was stated but not really enforced. Get out of the Army and join the boy scouts - When you got incoming you see how fast your sorry butt will run.
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SSG Alex Toulomelis
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You are in the Army, you will be called upon to perform multiple missions with a lack of sleep. So suck it up and go get after it.
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SGT Platoon Sergeant
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My question would be, how is the rest of your section handling it or are you the only one struggling? If it's the section, you might be able to work out an exception to policy but that sounds like a good amount of sleep to me.

I do agree with others here, easiest solution is just show up and sound off then sleep around pt.
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