Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
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SPC Davis: reading your post and some of the replies there are a few possible ways to address the situation however, if the 1SG and the CDR feels like PT is not been taken serious or there is an issue with failed APFTs or body fat issues in the ranks, then I can see the issue. I have never seen a shift that crazy on a clinic or hospital before. Now better time management is a way but also may not be sustainable in the long run for that unit. My recommendation is to talk to your supervisor and find a way to do the PT session. In my opinion if I have Soldiers who does PT daily and is crushing the PT test then as long as thats covered and you performance is to standard we are good. In the other hand if you can't manage your time, performance suffers and you can't pass the APFT soon ACFT or can't pass the tape test then I will have to involve your first line supervisors to work and manage PT sessions and are involved with the progress of their Soldiers. It is a workable situation but with the new ACFT around the corner there is a lot of training to do to be able to pass that physical fitness test. Prepare for it and crush it then they will see how you can take care of your own physical readiness and most likely will be able to work with you.
Sleep deprivation was the norm. Have you talk to the shift supervisor about modifying your shift?
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Do it. THEN explain to your NCOIC why you should be able to PT @ a different time.
Don't do the typical whiner thing. Lose a couple hours, I'm assuming you're young, your'e strong & you'll live. Man up & hooha.
Msgt ret. USMC
Don't do the typical whiner thing. Lose a couple hours, I'm assuming you're young, your'e strong & you'll live. Man up & hooha.
Msgt ret. USMC
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Have you explained your hours and suggested a way that you would do PT at a different hour with a way for the 1SGT to verify? If he still requires it, suck it up. You are in the military
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LOL.... "back in the day" we called it the "Budweiser Banana Run"...
We got in from the Strasse at 0430...changed into our "banana suits"
(PT Uniforms were yellow back then "Safety First")
did our stretches/pushups/ situps ....and ran 5 miles smelling of beer and puke
......Puke because people kept swinging off to the side of the road to get rid of that last six pack
....then a quick shit-shower-shave and off to the motorpool, the rifle range or a 25 mile roadmarch out into the German woodline and back
We got in from the Strasse at 0430...changed into our "banana suits"
(PT Uniforms were yellow back then "Safety First")
did our stretches/pushups/ situps ....and ran 5 miles smelling of beer and puke
......Puke because people kept swinging off to the side of the road to get rid of that last six pack
....then a quick shit-shower-shave and off to the motorpool, the rifle range or a 25 mile roadmarch out into the German woodline and back
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There's a lot of "suck it up, buttercup" response... and while I get that, I do think the command isn't acting properly. Having one Soldier who is tasked with showing up for a command function on a regular basis, right in the middle of the "off-shift" is questionable. Yes, I know, we're in the military 24/7, but there's some strong differential treatment.
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So many whining ass kids in the Military today, in 2008 I join the guard at 48 years old because I missed the Military. I was shocked at the level of maturity within my unit, I have never seen such lazy troops as I did within this unit. I did a PT test in 2009 and passed, none of these 20 year olds that I work with passed..............My last PT test was in 1986. And this guy is complaining about 4 to 5 hours sleep, I would be embarrassed to even post this!
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