I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?

Go to PT, and when reenlistment rolls around, ask yourself if you wanna keep dealing with having to PT on small amounts of sleep.

I'm sorry. The newest army leadership value is humility. I was mistaken. They need to make empathy one too.

All of you NCO's who follow instructions blindly make me so mad. Your duty as an NCO is to tend to the needs of YOUR Soldier. True the enemy doesn't care about a schedule. But I don't see the first shift people ever doing pt at 1900 or 2300 ON A REGULAR BASIS. Could you imagine the uproar that would happen? There is a reason that the newest leadership value is empathy. Just put yourself in your Soldiers' shoes. AND DON'T BE AFRAID TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR HIGHERS, NCO'S! That's what the Juniors are counting on to do.

Juniors, if your NCO lacks empathy or personal courage to go to higher, tell your direct line that you intend to go up the chain. Each leader above your direct NCO should have an open door policy. If that higher says just listen to your direct line, go higher. But inform each level that you intend to go higher. 1SG's always have open door policies. Just make an appointment. You will be expected to bring your direct, so be sure to inform him/her. If 1SG says he doesn't care, inform them that you will be filing an IG complaint and actually follow through. (A lot of people threaten it but don't follow through. And they know this.)

As you can tell, I am usually not a favorite among my highers. My Soldiers come first. When I was an E5, my Soldier wanted to go against our entire command. And I was timidly by her side. I agreed with her side but thought she could just suck it up. (I never told anyone at work that though.) AND SHE ENDED UP WINNING! CSM apologized for actions of command and everything. From then on I said I would back my Soldiers if they are right as much as I could.

Good luck! Message me if you need to talk.

I know everyone is different, but I usually get less than 5 hours sleep , even if I can sleep 8 hours i sleep half that , after CQ , I wake up before noon. Just need to tough it out battle , maintenance where I'm station at work late and still have to be in formation before 0630 , be lucky you're not them lol.

During the first Persian gulf war I was stationed in Germany and we worked 18-20 hour days for almost a year. I know the war was what 7 days long. We started shipping ammo 2-3 months prior and after the war were getting the big stuff back and still shipping small arms. I would have been happy to have enough time to go to PT. I was an E4P and had 17 people below me and only got about 1or 2 days off a month and only averaged 3 hours sleep a night. My response is Suck it up buttercup!!!

Yes. You go. Period. You're in the army, not some country club.

Banging my head on my desk here - you are in fact whining - this is the military, you aren't on some sort of clock. Manage your time.

I am reading other comments on here defending the OP concerns. So if I am reading this correctly, the OP has plenty of time to get some rest after PT since he does not have to go into “work” until 1600. Adjust your sleep schedule and suck it up. When you get off work at 0000, stay up. When PT is over, go to sleep. That simple.

You do as Directed Ordered to do, Remember not complying is refusing an order, attend your PT and Formation then request to speak through the chain of Command and or NCO Support channel starting with your immediate supervisor and address your concerns, this gets documented and protects you and the Leadership and you will have your concerns documented for the record.
Now Keep in Mind that during these times and during combat 90% of Soldiers in conflict fight with minimum rest. It is the Military Nature.

Sounds similar to leadership I once had at a Support Battalion in East Fort Bliss. I would've stayed in for 10 years if it wasn't for the nonsense and toxic leadership that was present. I remember our section working 15 hours a day for a good 6 months while the rest of the battalion got Family Day, Org Day, 3 or 4 Days while we still had to work. It was exhausting and mentally challenging yes but I just drove on cuz I knew it wouldn't change. Hang in there, if you're in Conus, try to PCS to OCONUS or something. Despite myths, Korea is an awesome place to be stationed at if you're young and you don't deploy nor railhead (for deployments), and no NTC. The regulations will be there but ignored and they will do anything to prevent you from going. Our company didn't let us go to sickcall before PT and wanted us to be present at the company no matter what and then go to sickcall after formation. Hang in there I know how it feels to be junior enlisted and having those that outrank you use their powers when it's convenient for them