Posted on Jun 12, 2019
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.

However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.

I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.

As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.

How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
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MSG Bill Yaeger
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Take your ass to PT and stop your crying ass complaining like a Big Ass Baby WaWaWa uou need to join the boy scouts
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Cpl Jeff Ruffing
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Wow! The petty complaining on this web site just blows my mind. Why is it when an enlisted goes out and blows his brains out on wine, women and song is able to do PT the next morning, but, if it’s legitimate because of duty, they want to whine. Do yourself a favor, don’t be known as a whiner, be known for a can do person. One that can take the bull crap and keep fighting. When the shit jobs happen, Who do you think they will grab? The can do guy or the whiner?
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SGT Michael Raymond
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Wow, did you ever chose the wrong career when you enlisted ! If your narrative is accurate the New First Sgt is the only one in your unit worth anything at all. Do you not know what a Soldier is? Do you not know Your Soldiers Creed? I am embarrassed for you, real soldiers buried in Arlington Cometary Would Be Rolling Over In Their Graves were they to read your post. Man up or get out of my Army!! Your going to get someone killed with your Pussy bullshit!!
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LCDR Jerry Maurer
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If I were you, I'd request alternate PT hours with the realization that the answer may be no. It could be worse, as a submariner, I stood a six hour watch, then worked for six hours, then stood another six hour watch, then had six hours left to eat, shower and sleep, about 4 hours sleep each day. For 70 days in a row (on patrol), 4 patrols in 2 years. The military is required to make sacrifices, thank you for your service.
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LTC Alexander Isaac
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Go to PT.
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SrA Jon Davis
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I will say this right now, the lot of you saying the suck it up buttercup deal, you are part of the problem.

The guy could have a health condition, could have a body that cant run on less than 8 hours, you are workin with incomplete information.

My guy, talk with your supervision and if that doesnt work, get seen for insomnia at medical, that should provide a waver so you can properly rest.

Seriously, so many damn meat heads here commenting but doing shit to help. And some ssgts no less.
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LCDR Mike Morrissey
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Just be thankful you aren't at sea. At least you have a consistent schedule and only work 8 hours a day? My sailors never had that luxury. But then, the old Navy recruiting poster "It's not just a job, it's an adventure."
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PFC Anthony Bruce
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Man up and do it. I had weight issues had to do pt twice a day while working shifts. I didn't complain because when I signed the dotted line I agreed to obey any orders that weren't unlawful.
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PO3 Michael MacKay
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You do your job and go to PT.
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SP5 Paul Ward
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You are stuck. Do it quit whining. I spent two tours in Vietnam and 4-5 hours of sleep would have been great and that was seven days a week. You signed up to be a soldier be one and quit whining. Maybe it will be a good war story you can tell your grandkids, or maybe you can tell your grandkids you couldn't cut it the military because it was too hard for you. They wouldn't give me eight hours of sleep every day.
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You need to suck it up and follow orders. PT is for your benefit, i wish that my current employer paid for me to stay physically fit. If you don't like this answer, you are in the wrong profession.
MAJ Linda Koppes
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I'm guessing that I don't have to ask that you've never been in combat. You do your job no matter how many hours that takes, rest when you can, and start again. No time outs, no "do-overs" and absolutely no excuses. My suggestion to you is doing your shift, go to PT, hit the rack & quit whining.
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MAJ Linda Koppes
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When you're in combat you sleep when you can, no matter how many hours you've been up. You do your job. So, my suggestion is to do your shift, go to PT, then hit the rack & quit whining. - Maj L. Koppes U.S. Army ((Ret)
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SSG Richard Brue
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what stops you from going to sleep off PT?
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LTJG Kevin Matthews
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You need to use the chain of command, that's why it's there. Whoever is in charge of your section should be handling this, not you. Now if by chance you are the one in charge of your section, then it's up to you to address this issue (on behalf of the section) with the first sergeant. Don't go to him with a problem unless you also have a solution. On the odd chance that he turns a deaf ear, be prepared to respectfully request to speak to the company commander on behalf of your section. Don't make this about you.
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SSG Fire Control Specialist
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I disagree with most of the comments in here. If you are working 1600-0000, and the first pt session available is 0530, naturally that's only 4.5hrs of sleep. Regulations say that service members require at least 7hrs of sleep. Sleep is a required commodity as is food and water. If 1sg wants pt at only 0530 or 1600, then they should reconsider the shift schedules to align with PT. It is unreasonable to expect a person to have their personal time between 0000 and 0430 when everything is closed dont be stupid. Regulation wise 600-20, tradoc 350-6(pg 52) I know its tradoc, but i think there's a compatible forscom reg.
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PO3 Hollalina Izen
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Not sure how you're not able to make PT. You can do the 0530 PT; take a nap after work and before PT. Then sleep during the day. Like everyone else is saying, work on your time management.
I was in the Navy and I was my divisions PT coordinator. I made PT mandatory. I couldn't risk anyone out of shape or getting heavy. I worked in the engine room on the ships and we had to be able to escape through hatches.
When we were underway I stood the 1800-2400 watch, mustered at 0700 for work, done with workday at 1600, and back on watch at 1800-2400; this could be anywhere from a week underway to months.
Guess what? I still found time to sleep and PT; plus, working out made it where I could function properly on 4-5 hours of sleep daily. I told my boys it didn't matter if we were underway or not, PT was mandatory; most of them had a lot nicer underway schedule than I did. I told them if I could PT on the little time off I had, they sure AF could too.
Not to be a jerk but quit complaining, go to PT, and learn better time management. Like others have said, if you deploy, 4-5 hours of sleep is a luxury.
Welcome to the military kid!
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Therese Iwaniak
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Go to PT?
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SFC David Johnson
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I'm an old soldier and can't believe I'm actually reading a post like this. Don't want to sound like you're whining? You are!
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1SG Carlos E Bonet
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Fallow instructions, do as you told, report to your first line supervisor and let him or her know of your situation.
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