Posted on Jun 12, 2019
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.

However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.

I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.

As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.

How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
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SGT William Nixson
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Dang - stop whining and hit the rack again after PT! This isn't summer camp or the Girl Scouts, this is the Army! Don't like it, don't re-enlist, but remember you signed a contract and swore an oath!!!
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CPO Kurt Baschab
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as a retired member of the armed services I to remember complaining about PT , glad to see somethings have not changed. LMAO.
After #) plus years of military service, and as a retired Coast Guard Chief,
MY best advice is to just suck it up butter cup.
Complaining only gets you a bad Reputation.
but and it a big but if you are going to push this because you believe in safe spaces, and every one gets a Trophy, hugs and time outs because they are stressed .

The best Advice i can give you is to come up with a few possible solution that doesnt make you sound like your trying to get out of PT!
the reason you do PT in the AM is to avoid the heat of the day and to wake you up, along with a few other reasons , maybe Suggest the 1600 PT Formation would be a better time for your Company. where you are more rested, but wait ....that is impossible, because you will be at work. so you really have no option unless you can convince your 1SG to allow your company to work out at say 1400 in the extreme heat of the day , this will give your company time to rest , work out there PT schedule , take a shower and get to work .

never go to your Supervisor without a few different solutions to your Problems, make sure your company on board with the Suggestions your taking to your 1ST Sergeant, he may toss them out the window or in the trash, or he may Consider them .

Most Importantly he will know you just did not come to him complaning about the problem , you offered some Suggestions , and hopefully a solution to the situation, so every one is happy.
the command is ensuring the company fitness, and you got your rest.

just remember If you stay in the serviceLong enough One day you will be the senior enlisted personal, you do not want a bunch of cry babys in your company, you want men who get the job done, who come up with SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS , you want to be pleasantly Surprised By the OUTSTANDING RESULTS OF THERE PERFORMANCE AND DUTYS. you want to know your Company can be Trusted to handle anything they are tasked with, they will PLEASANTLY SURPRISE YOU WITH THE RESULTS !
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SSG Christopher Allen
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Time management! Stay up after your shift and go to pt at 0530. After pt get breakfast and go to bed. Sleep 7-1500. 8 hrs sleep, problem solved.
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SFC Brian Gillum
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I worked all different kinds of shifts. I don’t know anyone who goes right home and falls asleep after getting off at midnight. No one.

Stay up, go to PT, go back to wherever, sleep. Get up at 1400-1500 and prepare for shift.

That being said, if you have an entire section that works this particular shift, I would think that the section NCOIC would already have a plan in place to conduct PT. If anything, that is the individual you should be working up your chain to speak to.
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CPO David Sullivan
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I suppose that you volunteered for this? In 1967 We Stood 12 hour 1800-0600 watches in the Gun mount and had three unreps in one day. So every three days one was 36 hours...
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SPC Jovani Daviu
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I think you may have your priorities mixed up. Even though I was "only" ARNG for 8 years, I did not drink, smoke or "club" during the entirety of my contract.
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COL Robert James
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Gee a new Army. Stay sloppy and Blame your NCO. The rest of your lazy friends will support you. Makes you sick seeing this on important day like June 6.
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CPL Mortuary Affairs Specialist
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When I was in I was told I will only be promised 4 hours of sleep per 24 hours. I don’t want to be or sound like an ass. But we fright like we train and we train like we fight. In combat you can’t have a rest period because of lack of sleep. It sucks somedays. I would say embrace the suck.
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Honestly, this seems like a time management problem. You work from 1600-0000. Are you not sleeping before that, say 0700 to 1500? You'd get a solid 8 hours which many folks do not get and still have time between work and PT to do whatever. You could also split the sleep time if you like to nap before PT. I do not see an issue here. Many folks still have to go to PT after 24-hour staff duty; which I could understand fighting against.
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SFC George Simons
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While the previous are all true, you might want your platoon sergeant to ask if you could talk to your 1SG to consider his appointing a PSG (yours) a PT session for off set platoons. Most 1SGs will understand you can not physically be in two places at once. As for being at am PT, get used to it.
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