I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?

MAJ Wilson and CW3 Storm have it right. Even though I believe you are not being treated with appropriate consideration by your COC, I would offer you some friendly advise: You must choose your battles. It is not wise to engage in every battle that you can win, only the ones that are worth it. SFC Davila was correct in his assertion that on deployments and other high OPTEMPO assignments it is not unusual to have to live on regular 4-5 hours sleep. It is a part of being in the Army. I do not agree with inflicting unnecessary pain/inconsideration on anyone of any rank. I am not your commander. Never forget that no NCO likes to have a soldier go over his/her head, especially on a subject that is near and dear to the 1SG's heart. They can make life more difficult for you in ways that will stand up to scrutiny. If you are ready to follow through and feel it is worth it, dive in... especially if there are several of you who share the schedule and are willing to be a part of the solution. CAVEAT: If you are not willing and committed to take the heat and suspect that you might back off at the first sign of significant "resistance" as you work up the chain, DON'T EVEN START the process. Back to Obligations: Do you have to follow orders? Certainly. Do you get to choose which (lawful) orders you you obey? No. Do you have recourse? In this case, likely yes. You will need to go up the NCO chain through your PSG until you get to the 1SG. Chances are that your PSG will talk to the 1SG and they will work it out to everyone's benefit. Why? You will ask your PSG for written counseling for that order. Ask him/her that since the 1SG is the one behind the PT push, does s/he think that the CSM might be able to help. Let him/her know that you are prepared to go on to the 1SG and request to see the CSM and don't want to go empty handed. If the first CSM in the chain does not help, ask for the next one up. No one from the Squad leader, PSG, 1SG nor the new CO will be happy about that prospective visit. It is possible that the CO will hear about it and change the order also. Back to a earlier point: Don't start something you are not willing to finish...in the long term if you quit before it is resolved, you will regret potentially picking a fight to which your are not totally committed....and as before, you may win a battle and lose a war. Good Luck! The army seldom puts stupid people in medical MOSs. Think through what you should do and ask an NCO in your chain for advice...then do what you feel you are best served to do.

Why not ask the 1SG to consider moving the afternoon PT formation up one hour to 1500. Your crew can attend then and go to work and the daytime shift might get to go home an hour earlier. Win, Win. Best of luck!

This kind of shit is what I miss the least of all about the military.

Suck it up! You’ve got your orders!

Sorry SPC Davis, not a whole lot of professional responses in this forum to your question. Read your regs, but most likely you'll have ton break up your sleep into two 4 hour sessions. I see this post was a year ago but the replies from people that are supposed to take care of soldiers is disheartening. PT and living in a 24 hour training environment is more important than strong healthy soldiers ready to deploy. Guess that's why people from other units get cherry picked and attached to units that have a bunch of beat up soldiers that can't maintain because of ridiculous ego centric policies. I feel for ya. Get your experience and be a professional civilian, they'll love you in the real world.

Dude SIUDO,,,Suck it up and drive on!

If you get deployed, 4-5 hrs. of sleep will be your LAST concern. It's time your generation grew up and joined the real world. I spent 16 1/2 months in Viet Nam, on duty from 18:00 to o:600 6 - 7 nights a week. I was to sleep during the day. On base, I was on the 2nd floor, 3 feet from a tin roof. The temps. in the bay was 130 - 135 degrees! Not much sleep there, I would spend most of my days in the NCO club where it was air conditioned. When I left country on 27 Oct, 1969, it was a COOL day. At 14:00, it was only 103 degrees with humidity ALWAYS in the upper 90's. That feels a whole lot hotter than some dry dessert. As of this date, I'm 73 yrs. old, I STILL DON'T GET MORE THAN 4-5 hrs. of sleep per night. I was a Journeyman Lineman for over 40 years, when you go on "storm", you're on 16 off 8 /day, 'till the Utility releases you.
When my son was 17, he joined the Army. When he was in school, his mother would get him up, on off school days, he would get up at the crack of noon. Before he departed for the Army, I sat him down and had a little talk with him. I told him once you get in the Army, your ass is theirs! No more sleeping in. If you don't get up at Revelly, your in deep dodo! They don't play games. Don't try to beat the system, they've seen it all and know how to take care of you. Keep that in mind.
At that time, the NCOIC could latterly knock your d..k in the dirt, so you did NOT want to draw undue attention to your self. My advice is to grow a pair, man up, and do as required!

Suck it up like we all did and do it. Ether that or puke out for the good of the service!

If you needed sleep, Uncle Sam would issue it to you. You get to complain about it that’s your role as a junior enlisted. (Google terminal lance). As I was told, “DO YOU NEED A STRAW” Why? “TO SUCK IT UP”.

BTDT, now even as a civ I only get maybe 5-6 hrs at most cost of service