I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?

Am I missing something? Work is from 1600-2400. PT is at 0530. That leaves approximately 10 hours between end of PT and start of shift. If you are tired after "only" 4-5 hours of sleep, there is plenty of time to "rest". There is also the possibility that the military is not for you. I can remember falling into my bunk at 0445 and getting up at 0530 to begin a full day's work. Was I tired? Yes, of course. But I did what had to be done. When I signed the enlistment papers I don't remember anything about guaranteed sleep. Just my take on the situation.

What the hell is this? SPC Davis, you're in the Army. Not the Girl Scouts. Quit your damn whining and do your duty. Follow orders. It doesn't matter that you only had 4 or 5 hours of sleep. I am sick and tired of hearing all this whining from people who are supposed to be Soldiers. Stop it all of you.

Why in the he'll did you enlist? Nothing more than a cry-baby-suck-a-tit! Apply for a dishonorable discharge & join up with an ANTIFA/BLM group. I was drafted & didn't run off to Canada or go to Russia & smoke pot!!! The service doesn't need your attitude, disposition or any other BS excuse. Enough time wasted on your personal problem. Go see a Chaplain!! SGT ML '71-77 US ARMY

You go. Problem solved. There will be tougher times and these ‘small’ moments will you prepare you for those future ‘problems’. Don’t be ‘that guy’ in the company/platoon/squad’. You’re a soldier and an adult now. Move on.

Are you kidding me
Suck it up and move forward or roll out

join the USAF

Terrible answers. But it doesn't appear that there is little that can be done to get around it. For one, it begins with the assumption that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. In fact, that does not apply in this case. It also assume that military rule is always right. In fact, this is more likely the idea of a single individual who is allowing his emotions to influence his better judgement.

Just because someone can accomplish a task under stress doesn't make it right or for their benefit. In fact, exercising with insufficient rest is detrimental to your health in many ways and can cause many sometimes serious consequences, including lowering your immune system as well as impairing brain functions such as memory, focus and concentration. It makes military personnel susceptible to unnecessary dangers they would not have experienced otherwise with sufficient rest and recuperation.

When you're tired you're going to make more mistakes, and those mistakes not only effect you, but everyone around you. Overall, this causes more harm than good. People that give these types of uniformed and uneducated orders are the ones largely responsible for the increasing number of heath claims many veteran experience during service and later on in life.

Thing is, they're 100% preventable. This may not be the appropriate venue to correct these errors, but it is certainly an opportunity to learn how to do better in the future than you are doing today or in the past.

effectively and professionally... 1st, you need to keep in mind, he is issuing lawful orders. You could ask to meet with him to defend your position, but if he is adamant, then you will have to disobey a lawful order to have NJP initiated. 2nd, whereupon you can request mast according to the UCMJ. Be sure to name a sufficiently ranked individual in your chain of command to hear your case. There is a time limit within which your superiors must have you in front of that officer.

Just know that there are much worse duties that you could be pulling. Duty driver for example, is often 24 on 24 off, required to be at hand for deliveries of inter office mail during the normal work day, and at a moments notice to convey the Duty OIC, the Duty NCIOC, and even the Duty clerk, to any duty post, office, barracks, BOQ, anywhere they so desire at random times. They only promise 1 meal and 1 hour sleep while on duty.

My suggestion is get used to the new schedule, and learn to get sleep in segments; perhaps switch your sleep to AFTER PT.

"The army is only required to give you 4 hours of sleep a night, and it doesnt have to be 4 continuous hours!" I still remember my drill sergeants telling us this.

Not to beat a dead horse, but it seems like more of an issue of time management. If you're working 1600- midnight (8 hrs) then you have 16 more hours in the day in which to sleep. Change your schedule, you should be waking up around 1400 hours, and hitting the rack after that 0530 pt session, that'll get you a good 7-8 hours of sleep.

Get with your PSG and see if he will get on board with a compromise with the 1SG. Maybe different PT times for different shifts, led by the senior NCO of those shifts. The 1SG doesn't need to micro manage. Your PSG, if on board could get the 1SG to see reason. Other good posts talk about adjusting your own hours. Obviously if you work the night shift, it sucks, but that means you work and do personal time at night, and sleep during the day. Finally, if there is a problem with individuals just not showing up to PT, then it may be a hard lesson for a little while. Bottom line, you are a Soldier, and need to Soldier up. I do think certain priorities should be aligned differently if you are not combat arms. That's my 2 cents.