Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
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Edited 6 y ago
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Off at 00:00, PT formation at 05:30... what's the problem? Used to sit up drinking with the Battery Gunny, toast with the last two beers at 05:00 and go call reveille for PT. You're giving 'pussies' a bad name with this one... step up, strap up and do your job!
(PT is part of mission readiness, I hated it but it was my job too)
(PT is part of mission readiness, I hated it but it was my job too)
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Suck it up buttercup! You knew what you signed up for. Count your blessings that your not a MARINE!
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There's not any Army Regulations to support this and there shouldn't be. We trained for WAR. There's no schedule for war. You, more than likely, will get less sleep than that nightly. your body must be fit to endure hardship.
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Remf 0600 pt 4+ mile run m-f ..if you ain't airborne you ain't shit !!!!
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Get off you ass and hit the grinder. Obviously you need your full 8 hours of before you can function. I sure hope i am not the 68W covering your unit in combat.
At age 40 I did 2 weeks Advanced Field Med School with Marine Recon.
At age 40 I did 2 weeks Advanced Field Med School with Marine Recon.
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Your 1sg should have an open door policy. Ask your PTSG to go with you to talk with the 1Sg. Tell him your shift times. Then suggest a 13:30 PT session for the soldiers on the same Shift as you. This should let the 1Sg know that you would love to participate in a PT program but due to the Delicacy of the work you do you would like to be fresh and well rested while preforming your duties.
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Go to PT at 0530. Then go back to bed. Unit formations, PT, training, etc... always have to be worked out with shift workers. But sometimes we just have to suck it up. Use the chain of command procedures if you feel something is wrong. As my favorite E3 used to say... "Yes, this is why we get paid the big bucks."
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I agree with you and your situation. However, you wouldn’t last a month in the Navy.
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Quit your whining and get your butt to the PT Formation. Talk with your Leader and ask him/her to take up the issue, but until it is resolved make the formations and do your duty. If you do not like it look for a transfer.
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You are whining; you can sleep after PT. However, you can request through the chain-of-command that a third time be established, or if you could do the 1600 formation.
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OMG cupcake. You’re in the military. You better realize and understand what is expected of you. Hurry up and wait, do this do that right now etc. Y don’t work 9 to 5 and if you are deployed any schedule you may have had is out the window. You do the very best you can all the time even if you’re sleeping. It’s not about you and your comfort. It is about everyone you stand beside and come in contact with. If you are unable to do that you need to work at Micky D’s .
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Just go to PT. It's easier than the future hell that will rain on you! Then you can go back to bed.
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I guess your higher ups is trying to put a statement across about PT. Since they are new to your company, they might be trying to establish themselves. Don't get me wrong, too much sleep and no PT equals to laziness and lack stamina. You're lucky you have that much time to sleep. You'll be surprised how much criticism you'll get by asking this question especially you being in the Army. All I'll say is, "Embrace The Suck and Drive On"! I will not dog you on this even though I'm Old School Army where PT is life but you got me chuckling when you asked the question.
Talk to your section Sergeant to relay to higher ups if your section can do PT like noon time. Good luck.
Talk to your section Sergeant to relay to higher ups if your section can do PT like noon time. Good luck.
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