Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
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Edited 6 y ago
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4-5 hours of sleep, we could have been so lucky. It would be nice for everyone to get 8 or more hours of sleep before requiring them to wake up, drink some coffee and then PT. My thought is how in the h3ll do we get the enemy to do the same and on the same schedule? The second point: A CHOICE on when to show up!!!, Well as a "Jr Enlisted" personnell, wait; you're in the Army, well I don't know what their protocal is, but I can't imagine they promised you a rose garden. Perpare for war, hoping it never comes is better then the other way around.
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The best way to handle this is two-fold: first and best method is to put on your PT uniform and report to the formation 5 minutes early exercise!! Secondly reach way down and grab yourself by the balls pull them up and and toughen up!
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You're whining. Period. Do you realize there's a pandemic ongoing? Do you realize emergency medical crews and hospital staffs are working EXTREMELY long and hard to fight a pandemic that affects American lives, and you're concerned you didn't get enough sleep?
Another silly question. AFTER PT, what are you doing. . .going BACK TO BED? Think about it. Really. . .reflect on it.
Help me too. You can't, for yourself, research an Army reg that says you're entitled to eight hours of sleep before your shift? Wow. .
Another silly question. AFTER PT, what are you doing. . .going BACK TO BED? Think about it. Really. . .reflect on it.
Help me too. You can't, for yourself, research an Army reg that says you're entitled to eight hours of sleep before your shift? Wow. .
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First, as a Specialist, you are an E4. Suck it up if you want to make E5. I was 11B/68W so I know what you re talking about. Get 4 to 5 hours sleep, go to morning PT, go back to your room, shower and sleep some more. Good God I'm glad I didn't have Medics like you to worry about during Desert Storm when we sometimes didn't sleep for 24+ hours due to being in the field and taking care of the wounded.
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By regulation, you are required a minimum rest time of 4 hours... seems like you got that. After PT... go back to sleep if your duty shift is 1600-0000. It's just one formation. My wife isn't even in the army and works graveyard as a caregiver, then comes home to work at our kids school. She sleeps from noon to 8pm. You need better time management because it's just one formation.
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Here's a way to deal with it: First, don't "whine" or complain to anybody about it, just suck it up and do what you're told. You get off work at midnight, right? So get to bed and sleep as long as possible, get up at 0500 and go to PT. When you're done, catch a couple of hours of sleep later in the morning and you should be fine. Unfortunately, some of us have duties that don't necessarily fit "nicely" within the confines of a "perfect" schedule. You'll be fine, and you'll set an example that good leaders will see, admire and acknowledge.
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You suck it up and show up OR work with your 1SG and section chief to have PT conducted by section chiefs for shift workers. A good 1SG will check on the sections to insure that the chiefs are conducting a good program.
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