Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
Edited 6 y ago
Posted 6 y ago
Responses: 1688
Let me help you with this problem. Be in formation at 0530, and do the PT. You signed up for this. You asked if there is any regulation, yes there is, It's called Your Company Commander, he gave a direct order. I hope this solves your problem. If not you need more help than I can give you, now stop whining do Pt or turn in your strips and go back to you moma.
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I'm with SFC Michael Davila on this one. Adjust your activities so you can do your job. Your job is being a Soldier. God knows we need you. Being tough isn't always tough, but it will certainly be tough sometimes. A lot tougher than going out to do something that is healthy, and good, for your mind and body, like PT, with all your buddies suffering alongside you. Believe me, when you look back at your life, those are the times you're going to miss.
Entered 1975, Retired 2020.
E1 to E6, then O1 to O6.
Entered 1975, Retired 2020.
E1 to E6, then O1 to O6.
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When did privates have a say so. If Top is saying PT is at 0430, then it's 0430. If you don't the Fuq up, you get smoked. Do you want a time out when you are forced to go on a 2-mile forced march? LMAO
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I see answers here that range from "suck it up" to "only to appease the 1SG" but perhaps there is another approach. Use the 5th Principle of Patrolling-- Common Sense. Familiarize yourself with the Army Performance Triad and the relevant regulations of crew rest. Those guidelines and regulations exist for purpose. You will find in there very good reasons for a balanced approach to conditioning for combat and troops to task methodology for round the clock operations, even in a garrison environment. I have been at this 40 years or so and spent many, many years in combat in several different wars, this is a garrison scheduling issue that should be the bread and butter of NCO business. Be STRAC and professional, but also strive for balance. Rangers Lead the Way!
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Junior enlisted under a new command structure... ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! Get your squared away self to one or the other of those PT formations. The only problem you seem to have. Is the motivation to overcome. Your really non relevant self assigned problem.
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One question do you not like pt? 1SG is correct telling you you need to do PT. I agree that if you can't handle PT on 4 hours sleep. You have diffidently chose the wrong carrer.
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Show up when you are told to. You joined the military voluntarily. You had a choice before you signed the contract. If you don't like it, then don't re-enlist.
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