Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
Company Commander
Physical Training
Army Regulations
Policy
Edited 6 y ago
Posted 6 y ago
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How do you solve it? You suck it up and do PT. I've had plenty of no sleep PT sessions when I was in. I mean literally out of my street clothes and into my PT gear.
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Had to do a PT test the day after everyone was “encouraged “ to give blood. Run times? Not so much.
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I would love to hear the soldiers PSGs narrative. Most good E7s would step up to the plate and fix this with the 1SG unless there was an issue with this soldiers ht/wt and or PT score. Deliberately disrupting any soldiers sleep schedule for no compelling reason is bad leadership. Period. As was mentioned already, if you have never worked the off shift continuously, you dont understand the effect it has on a person. I would make a plan for these off shift soldiers and submit it to the 1SG who, if he or she is worth a damn, would attempt to influence the CMDR.
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Can you ask your manager , NCOIC for a possible schedule change to accommodate your TOPs mandate?
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If you have certain jobs in the Army, life isn't always fair. I am an old SIGINT type. We worked rotating shifts. Working the midnight shift was bad. Twice a year we took our APFT. Oh joy, once after a mid & then 6 months later, maybe one in the late afternoon there were red flag warning over heat & humidity. Many times we would do our annual weapons qualification after working a midnight shift. Yeah, we weren't shooting at no 0830 hrs either. We got to the range straight from work & then had to wait until afternoon to shoot. No sleeping either. Did it suck? Oh yeah. Was it fair? No. But we sucked it up & drove on.
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The army only requires you to have 4 hours of sleep. Seeing you are not like a normal soldier and am working a civilian type shift he should allow you to have a formation at 1330 for accountability and PT, and at work at 1600.
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Sleep for a while.....do PT.....Go back to bed....WTF is the problem? Your mommy not doing your thinking anymore? Go to sick call and tell them your vaginitis is acting up.
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