Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
Company Commander
Physical Training
Army Regulations
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Edited 6 y ago
Posted 6 y ago
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Dear Ashley, I'm just seeing this and I hope you got the help you needed. You're working in a hospital, not undergoing Seal Training. I understand why you felt stuck. Would you have a progress update?
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Don't go to war. You will find that 4 or 5 hours of sleep is a "boatload." Of course I'm speaking of 11Bravo MOS - Vietnam 67-68 Central Highland Jungles. Never to happen again, so chalk it up as a history lesson. The modern warrior needs 8 straight to function properly.
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You're a soldier you do what you are ordered to do. Have you never read about what American Soldiers have done throughout history and especially during WWI & WWII? The enemy will not wait until you are well rested, or well fed. You must train your mind and body to be a razor. Your rifle isn't your weapon! It's your determination, and willingness to do what must be done. That's your weapon.
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I've spent nights as a junior enlisted artilleryman without ANY sleep after a long night of hanging out at the GI bars during foreign assignments (thank goodness THOSE days are over) and never once did I consider the notion of missing out on PT. No one ever questioned it. I knew when I signed up that I would have to do whatever I was told to do by senior enlisted or officers. What "isn't right" as you put it, is going against orders (unless they defy the Geneva Convention".
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I'm sorry cupcake! Damn that's some tough shit for you to handle. PT on just 4 hours sleep. Man I'd sue. That is a violation of your cupcake rights!
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Safety is always first-period! Speaking from a Safety Manager's perspective, now, from a DI point of view, no one cared that I was tired as an E5 Drill Sgt. At Ft. Sill, do you think it mattered that I was exhausted from training/running with the males? No, I had to do my job, and it was a beast to keep up with them. My "battles" (fellow DIs) had my back, especially from a safety perspective; however, I had to maintain Army standards, prioritize and readjust with time management skills which are doable. After becoming a Senior NCO, Time Management skills were imperative and remained a crucial skill to maintain.
Best wishes.
Best wishes.
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I remember dry scraping a razor across my face on the way to formation. I also remember being awake for 5 days in the field. You can’t even remember your name after that. The bottom line is you signed up now you do what you are told. Quit whining about it. In 25 years in the Army, I’ve been thru lots worse.
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Suck it up! You are in the armed forces. If you can't do what needs to be done to be combat ready 100%. Find a new career.
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